Migrants overwhelm Midtown Manhattan sidewalks: 'Absolutely out of control'

I have no interest in your false narrative

 

If it was built incorrectly blame Trump

 

Yet there you are.

 

Go argue against the obvious with Steve Bannon, he can help build the wall.

 

Can you name one prison which has a wall like the one we have at the border?

Residential style "wall" takes 5 seconds to scale, because they are mostly for privacy rather than security.

Do I? I said I don't have anything against a wall, even though its obvious its not the solution.

 

If they let them get a toe hold in CP, it will be hard to retake it. I've seen other scenarios like that when homeless people are allowed to use parks. It can go on for years with legal wrangling. In Eugene Oregon, they allowed the homeless to use a large city park. It was quickly completely taken over. It ended up taking two years to take it back, and now a year later the citizens are still waiting to use the park. The city had to go in and remove ALL the topsoil in order to remove the toxic mess that was left. After new soil and grass was planted, they fenced the area off and are waiting for the rehabilitation of the area before the area can resume it's use.

 

It's "obvious" that walls are NOT the solution? No one has said it will stop illegal immigration, but it's an effective tool to HELP stop illegal immigration.

 

Re:

I agree that just building a wall is not the solution to our out of control immigration problem.

However, there are walls and and then there are WALLS like the infamous wall in Israel or the former Iron Curtain.

Even with a much more substantial WALL, anyone who really wants to get into this country will find a way.

I just read that "More than 95,000 asylum seekers have arrived in NYC since last spring, per the mayor's office."(1)
and suspect that numbers may be higher but, as others have noted, I doubt that New Yorkers are going to quietly accept a virtual refugee camp across the street from their multi million dollar apartments.

Enjoy your weekend,



(1). "Central Park among options "on the table" to house influx of migrants in NYC"
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/03/new-york-city-central-park-migrants

 

The Isaeli fence is 37 miles, so that is manageable, while our would be 2000 miles, leaving vast areas where people can easily get over, under to through it.

The Iron Curtain was a metaphor, not a physical wall.

 

Wouldn't need a wall if being illegal provides no benefits what so ever. No education, no access to hospitals, no path to citizenship EVER, no ability to work without a far more restrictive work legal VISA system, etc. And every citizen of another country we catch, we bill the cost of shipping them home to their country of origin. Cut off ALL foreign aid to our south until they control their own people. A combination of those policies AND a wall would be ideal.

 

Which prison wall doesn't work?

Scale Nancy Pelosi's wall or the one around the White House.

We design security walls to fit their intended purpose.

 

Well there is no one solution but walls funnel invaders to points that are easier to police. Moats obviously don't work unless they have concertina fences to reinforce them

 

And since just about all of the illegals are allowed to travel through Mexico (and now Canada) we have to lean on that country big time. No more aid, freeze the assets of all politicians, military leaders and influential businessmen, prevent money from being sent to Mexico unless there’s a business purpose behind it, put our military on the border and refuse entry to this country to anyone who merely walks up to our border and demands asylum. And inside our own country we have to round up all the illegals and put them on a plane to Mexico City; not Juarez or TJ, Mexico City.

We need to do to Mexico what we did to Russia after their minor incursion.

 

Going forward, we need a good design, a good build, and it needs to be completed. It needs to be done in a way that tells the world, that if you want to come here, you need to go through the legal channels.
Last month border agents arrested over 130,000 trying to get in ILLEGALLY, and no telling how many slipped by. A completed and well-constructed wall would help tremendously in reducing those #'s.

 

Prison walls are nothing like the ones at the border.

I said it twice, - I have no issues with building a wall. IMO they won't work, but who knows, - maybe I'm wrong. We can afford it. Dems should not oppose it just for the sake of opposing it. That's silly politics.

LOL. Her house does not even have a privacy wall

 

comparing prison walls was your idea and as for Pelosi, evil is it's own barrier.

 

Depends on which home she's in. Her vineyard estate is protected on one side by the Napa River, and likely has fencing on the rest.
Her D.C home is a $2.6 million dollar condo, that likely has high security.

 

So you are saying Trump messed up the wall.

 

If Trump had been able to finish it, it would have worked.

 

Well I suggest you talk to Bannon and no one stopped the wall from being built. All structures require maintenance.

 

I don't know if a better design is out there. The important thing is a wall helps give agents time to respond, and at least the areas where it was built added to the abilities of agents.
At least with Trump, he actually wanted to try and do something about illegal immigration, whereas Biden did just the opposite, when he invited the surge to the border.

 

No one stopped the wall from being built? Biden cut funding on day 1. Wonder if he’s regretting it. Probably not.

 

“This higher barrier will give us more time to react,” Baca said. “The new fence is making it harder for illegal aliens to enter.”
In Arizona, CBP law enforcement personnel are testing the latest technology – such as unmanned aerial vehicles and new radio and surveillance systems – aimed at shoring up the U.S. southern border by augmenting the skills already employed by Border Patrol agents on the ground in conjunction with the wall. The three elements – the wall, the technology and the Border Patrol agents – used in different proportions depending on the location provide for an effective deterrence.


“We see the tools we’re testing as force multipliers,” said Stephen Spencer, assistant chief patrol agent in Tucson. “Just like any other technology we’ve seen throughout the years, these items will help make sure we’re able to respond quickly, while not wasting time responding to false positives, such as a cow or horse wandering into the border area.”



Border Security | U.S. Customs and Border Protection (cbp.gov)

 

I don't need to talk to Bannon, I watched all the obstruction Democrats threw up and construction came to a halt with Biden taking office.

 

Sure you did, in lala Trump land. !!!