Minimum requirements for heaven.....

I should tell you about the unusual experience that I had back in 1990..... but I think I will give you this as background information:


Faith vs Science?

 

This gifted woman states after the 21 minute mark in this video that
Whitney Houston and
Michael Jackson and
Elvis made it to heaven..... this woman seem to be major, major league to me from what I have seen of people with similar gifts.....




Oh... Anna Nicole made it too.....
John Wayne....
Elvis's grandmother prayed him into heaven......

 

People dream that stuff all the time. Plus, those on various kinds of drugs have similar experiences as their brains get pickled. I just don't find it even slightly impressive that someone with a dying brain desperately trying to make sense of input from dying sensory organs would come up with truly amazing material.

I can overlook this stuff in most cases, as it is usually pretty much harmless. But, it can lead to a gross misunderstanding of what constitutes facts or evidence and can also be a basis for coercing people to donate.

 

There are many theologians who suggest universal redemption regardless the individual's life but it is hard to imagine Hitler in heaven

 

Yes....... it is difficult to imagine Hitler in heaven......
but an interesting point is made in this video.......
many people who commit suicide were on drugs that totally messed up their thinking......
and the speaker was shown many of these people who committed suicide
ended up in heaven due to the DESPAIR that they were wrestling against......

Each case is unique....... Hitler was on drugs...... .and they sure did warp his thinking......

 

All Christians will be saved, but not everyone who calls them self a Christian is a Christian.

Christians are saved from the penalty for sin by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ.
It requires a vanishingly insignificant measure of faith in Jesus Christ to be saved from the penalty for sin. Jesus likened such a measure to a mustard seed. A mustard seed is one of the smallest of the garden seeds, but it grows into one of the largest garden plants. However, if you cut that mustard seed in half, and then planted it, it would not grow. To get life from a mustard seed, it requires an entire mustard seed. The same is true of the measure of faith in Jesus Christ needed to be saved from the penalty for sin. You see, it really doesn't matter how much, or how little faith you have in Jesus Christ to be saved from the penalty for sin, as long as all of your faith is in Him.

 

At the 1:11:11 mark to the one hour and seventeen minute mark in this video Kat Kerr talks about Whitney Houston being seen by her in heaven. This is moving and very interesting indeed.......
https://youtu.be/28IWq6dZlEw?t=4283

 

At the 1:06:00 mark in this audio the gifted Kat Kerr states that she was shown Elvis in heaven............
she adds some pretty intriguing details.......

G-d told her to contact Graceland.... she obeyed..... and eventually after forty five minutes she was talking to a family member of his......

 

All that proves is god is an ass!

 

There is no heaven and there is no hell except the one that we make for ourselves. There is no judgment and no one to worship. God, The One, The Creator, call him what you will, do's not require worship.
IMO there is a spirit world that most consider to be heaven. Heaven, let's just call it that, is not a reward, it's everyone's home and destination.

 

To say it was because of drugs or the body's reaction, or chemistry is the 'low hanging fruit' argument. Too easy. Too lazy.
You should talk to experienced hospice workers who witness their patients speaking with relatives not seen. Thousands of cases, but not one of a patient speaking to an unseen living relative. I've seen my dead wife in bed with me after I got up to use the toilet.
On another occasion, middle of the day, while at work, I saw the man who's office was across the hall, three days after he had died.
In both cases, they were solid looking. Solid as ever. My whole family has had many paranormal experiences. None of them included drugs or mind altering conditions. People have been seeing ghosts for thousands of years. None of your explanations, your low hanging fruit, can explain any of it.

I'd like to recommend "Many Lives Many Masters" By Dr. Brian Weiss.
Brian Weiss, MD, a graduate of Columbia University and Yale Medical School, and founding chairman and chairman emeritus of the department of psychiatry at the Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami, is America’s leading authority in past-life regression therapy.

 

I'm not suggesting drugs are at fault, though hospice often does include drugs.

I am suggesting that brains have the capacity for dreams that appear to be very real experience, and the notion that NDEs are actually real has not been tested.

Of course, you're taking this one gigantic step further by suggesting reincarnation.

 

By observation, simply saying that one is a Christian. In practice and assuming that God exists, I am not sure but I doubt a simple claim of being a Christian would suffice. I know many Christians but only know a small number who walk the talk.

 

There's been a ton of study on it. Truly a massive amount. Verified testimony by relatives in the waiting rooms, of things they said
that the NDE person heard and saw, because the person having the NDE left the OR to be with his folks in the waiting room.
I'm not suggesting reincarnation, I'm claiming it.
Your 'low hanging fruit' answer requires no critical thinking. You probably heard someone say it's brain chemicals, decided it needed no further thought, and scooped it up as your own. While some of us, quite a few actually, were experiencing things that simple answers can't explain. You probably never heard of Robert Munroe and the Munroe Institute.

 

I've read some stuff about Munroe.

What's going on here doesn't meet the requirements of science.

But, that's ok - it doesn't have to.

 

"What should we do then [to be saved]?" the crowd asked.
John answered, "Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same."

"Even tax collectors came to be baptized. "Teacher," they asked, "what should we do?"
"Don’t collect any more than you are required to," he told them.

"Then some soldiers asked him, "And what should we do?"
He replied, "Don't extort money and don’t accuse people falsely - be content with your pay."​

Luke 3:10-14

 

Well it depends on who you ask. According to Christian dogma, even if you live a completely sin free life, exactly how god would want you to, if you do not worship him, you burn for eternity in hell. That's one of the reasons I stopped being a Christian. The Christian god has too much of an god complex for my taste. The idea that an all loving being would punish his own creations SOLELY for not worshiping him doesn't sit well with me. It's not really love if you give someone free will and then punish them for not choosing to bow down to you. The Christian god is a petty bitch.

 

This is "salvation through works".

 

The best answer that I can give to your question at this time is that we Christians have many, many, many misunderstandings about Hell and Purgatory....... I believe that the near death experiencers of this time period have given us the best answers that I have ran into so far in my fifty nine years.
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Many people ask many difficult questions that frankly have some validity........

For example... do miscarried and aborted babies go to heaven?

Answer; Yes!

So then if miscarried and aborted babies go to heaven....... are not mothers doing their children a favour by
having an abortion?????

There is some more on this beginning at the 2:55:50 mark in this audio version of a book by the gifted Anna Roundtree:





There is more information on this topic over here:

Near death experiencer shown no condemnation for women who choose....

 

Claim what you want. When you can post any actual evidence perhaps you will be taken seriously. So far nobody has provided anything other than uncorroberated, easily debunked stories.

And even then there is no evidence that NDE's have any relevence to actual death. Nor is there any evidence of reincarnation. Remember the Bridey Murphy hoax that fooled so many of the gullable for so long?

 

Ok... this is sure a different angle on all this.......



Paul Washer - Shocking Message (full length)

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Forgiveness.... is something of a Minimum Requirement for Heaven.....

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html

 

That’s like the survivor of a catastrophe that kills hundreds giving god credit for their survival.

 

Ah yes, "logical." The universe MIGHT have made itself from nothing. I just can't be sure, so..... I give up.

Further reading: The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict, by Josh McDowell
The Privileged Planet- How our Place in the Cosmos is Designed for Discovery
by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay W. Richards

 

Be encouraged...... it is the little things that count..... small acts of kindness to others!