Minorities Buying More Guns

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  1. Old Trapper

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    I guess it must make you feel like a man to site off right wing BS, however, let us face reality. Out of the entire population approximately 6.7% have seen military service. Only 3% have seen combat service. Of Republicans less then 10% have joined the military while 90% support war. Your party is led by chicken hawks such as Trump, Cheney, Bush, Romney, Kristol, and the list goes on. Unfortunately "we" depended on these types to protect us, and we now have ISIS, Iran, China, No. Korea, and other countries taunting our military, and Russia advancing in The Ukraine.

    What you call "conservatives" are not "Patriots" no more then those Hannity calls "Great Americans" are such. Does being a "Patriot" mean one should support mindless, and illegal, wars that cost thousands of lives like Vietnam, or Iraq? Are you saying that men like Eisenhower, who hated war, was a coward while Limbaugh is a "Patriot"?

    Get real.

    This is the way chicken hawks send true men off to war:

    http://rense.com/general39/waron.htm

    "In the days of fighting their way to Baghdad, Davis' and Lee's battalion, honored by the Reserve Officers' Association as the nation's finest Reserve infantry unit, found they were short on ammunition, hand grenades, signal devices, chemical weapon detectors and heavy guns.

    The Marines had to share night vision goggles and body armor. They ended up stripping needed equipment from wounded and injured comrades. They had no spare parts to repair weapons, radios, trucks or Humvees. Until the end of the fighting, they didn't even have spare tires.

    Because they did not have a satellite radio, their headquarters frequently lost contact with higher command -- contact necessary for learning the evolving war strategy and in calling for airstrikes, artillery or medical evacuation helicopters.

    At one point, food became so scarce that gunners held up signs to passing Army combat engineers scrawled with the words "Will Shoot for Food." "
     
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    I'm following Trump's lead and example
     
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    How do go into details... Wouldnt want people to think you are just posting David Brock mindless talking points would you?
     
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    Lol, Democrats and their race race race... Oh no , Americans buy guns!

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    Democrats and their race race race .. I say all Americans should buy a gun as soon as they can .
     
  5. Old Trapper

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    Mind telling us what that "agenda" was? Was ti the same one Scalia had in the Heller decision when he said the State had the right to regulate guns, and gun ownership?

    Question. Do you think that since the Second shall not be "infringed" on that the Militia should be brought back with mandatory military service?

    Next, since the Second should not be infringed on, should not ex-cons be allowed to own guns?
     
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    You can post an endless amount of questions if you want it doesnt change what i said.
     
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    Lol. Obviously you are unaware of the shall not be infringed part.
     
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    Wow, so many false claims all wrapped up in one post.

    You said "and now we have ISIS, Iran, China"....you DO realize YOUR GUY created that mess, right? And then may as well have served gourmet dinners to ISIS as well armed as they became due to his mess in the ME (with help from your girl Hillary). Remember those brand new Toyota trucks, US weapons, etc.? Where do you imagine those came from? Oh yeah....YOUR GUY trying to remove Assad from power in Syria after that disastrous turnout in Libya he owns as well.

    Patriot means loving your country and countrymen, sometimes by having the balls to stand up for one's country up to the cost of one's life. Your snowflakes who would or could are few and far between. You can veterans and military members for handling that for them, and pay particular thanks to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for them. And Trump hates war, by the way. He wants ISIS removed and the US out of the combat business. Your guy just bragged about being "good at it," while having no plan in place to end anything, when talking about bombing foreigners with unmanned drones from afar, with untold illegal civilian casualties. He ran a pansy war from above against nations who didn't deserve to be attacked. Much like Vietnam, Iraq, Libya. I hate war and I support the military and am a veteran myself. Most military people hate war. You and I agree on mindless and illegal wars, but I hope you were screaming from atop the hills at Obama over his as well.
     
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    Don't know and really don't care. My stock portfolio keeps going up no matter who is feeding the frenzy, Who knows maybe the NRA will see a significant increase in members AND wouldn't that be grand!
     
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    LoL a guy flying the flag of a country that lures in people from SE asia to build their skyscrapers, then keeps them prisoner and doesn't pay them. A country that has one of the worst human rights abuse records on the planet. A country that does not have freedom of speech and treats it's women like property.

    Comical.
     
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    Yes, especially when you can't answer the question, just post false comments.

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    Actually no. Are people really so stupid as to think that if the government really wants to confiscate guns they don't need a registry, all they need is the membership list from groups like the NRA?
     
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    Actually, that is a false claim on two points.

    1. If we had not gone into Iraq ISIS would not exist, nor would the weapons they confiscated be there.

    2. If Bush had not allowed China to gain permanent membership in the WTO the China would still be a third rate country.

    3. I never vote for either a Republican, or a Democrat. I vote for honest people like Darrell Castle.

    From what Bush sent over, and then the military left behind. Then too, there are the arms that Saudi Arabia, and Iran, supplied. I don't recall Obama having sent any over.

    Yes, Obama screwed up, no doubt about that. Then too, he was just following the lead Bush had established, and there was no way he could straighten out that mess. As Colin Powell warned "If you break it you own it" And we certainly own it.

    BTW, who is an ally of Serbia, and Iran, and a budding friend of Trumps?

    Well, that certainly leaves out Trump and his kids; Romney and his kids; Cheney, Bush, Rove, Limbaugh, Hannity, and about 90% of the Republican Party. At least the Democrats had the balls to oppose the war in Iraq. Most of them anyway.

    I do, and I would oppose sending them off to die in worthless wars unlike puppets like you.

    Not what he says.

    So that is why he wants a massive military build up, and a nuclear arms race.

    Trumps only plan is more war, and an expanded war. Aside from saying he loved war (yet was too much of a coward to go to war), he also said he had a "secret plan" to eliminate ISIS which he could not reveal until after elected (and has yet to reveal it as he has not done with so many things), and wants a nuclear build up by other countries.

    But hey, he is YOUR guy.
     
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    Yeah, I only referred to it twice.
     
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    Of course, these tabloid news organizations can't be bothered to do real journalism :D

    [video=youtube;jZmqhe_8jA0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZmqhe_8jA0[/video]
     
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    Thank goodness for the 2nd. Amendment then.

    Maybe after sending a few rounds down range, those not particularly fond of other Articles in our Constitution, will crack a book or 6 & brush up on, & fall in love with, other great areas of our American System of Governance, thereby falling deeper in love with America et al.

    Making America GREAT again...

    YEAH!
     
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    Said regulations limited by Miller and Heller, and later McDonald.

    That would be intetesting, actually updating 10 US 311 to include all able bodied women 17 - 45, and having all of those unorganized militia members meet periodically for training and testing. Mandatory full time miltary service, I'm not so much in favor of. Seems to work in other western democracies, though.
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    Next, since the Second should not be infringed on, should not ex-cons be allowed to own guns?[/QUOTE]

    As one frequent poster has repeatedly noted, we have no way of stopping them now from owning a gun illegally.
     
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    Couldn't agree more, but the weapons they acquired was a bunch of new stuff funneled through places like Benghazi by Hillary's folks, of course under the direction of Obama. She wouldn't take that risk as a rogue actor.

    We've been buying from China for decades and they have amassed so much US cash that they have no choice but invest it back into supporting our debt. That wasn't a Bush/Obama thing....just economics.

    Bravo



    We've been arming Syrian rebels for years. It's not new information and it happened under Obama. That they turned tail and became ISIS and took on their own agenda is also Obama's.



    100% agree

    Still buying that line from CNN, huh? It literally makes sense to stop this enemy relationship with cold war countries and try to mend fences and work together, if possible. What benefit is there to keeping these faux hate relationships just to give the people something to fear? Russia doesn't have the logistical capability to bring a real war to our shores and it's time we stop pretending. Same for China. Heck, they could team up and not be able to handle combat at our shores, especially if NATO nations participated, which we know they would.



    What a ridiculous statement. You'll find most conservatives are also patriotic people. Even down to respect for the flag, which liberals couldn't even find the strength to have present at some of Hillary's events because they didn't want to "offend" anyone with it. Patriots are pretty easy to spot and accusing 90% of republicans (which I'm not!) of being non-patriotic is ignoring reality.

     
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    Likely because Hillary isn't PotUS.
     
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    Funny then the vast multitude of conditions, restrictions and limitations placed on the RKBA by the left, including bans on firearms.
    What other right does the left believe can be constitutionally subjected to a $500 permit before it can be exercised at its most basic level?

    Scalia said no such thing; after McDonald, any restriction by a state is limited by the 2nd.

    The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

    Until Heller, the "Natural right" to own a firearm for private use did not exist in DC.
    So much for that.
     
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    Since the Constitution and the Bill of Rights defines the limitations on the power of the federal government, and in accordance with the 10th Amendment, the federal government shouldn't have any power to restrict private ownership of firearms, then, should they?

    In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence" and limited the applicability of the Second Amendment to the federal government.
     
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    false sense of security, since Trump is the true tyrannt.
     
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    Operation choke point, implemented under Barack Obama, resulted in banks being threatened with punishment for doing business with firearms manufacturers, and federally licensed firearms dealers. If these individuals cannot do business with banks, despite their business being legitimate, they go out of business for being unable to pay their bills.
     
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    Which FEMA camp would you like: smoking or non-smoking?
     
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    Then you will have absolutely no trouble conclusively proving that such is the absolute truth.
     
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    knowing Trump, he'll send me straight to the gas chamber.

    he hates Jews and wants us all "deported to the East".
     

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