Misandry

Discussion in 'Civil Rights' started by Glücksritter, Mar 5, 2011.

  1. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    I don't. I don't like women. I don't like men. I do like people. But when they're acting out their gender roles they're ridiculous.
     
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    Nope, but your are ignored by this aggressive-aggressive person.
     
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    Sheen is a product of American Society and does what MILLIONS of men wish they could do. He typifies the desires and wishes of more men than not. People in other nations are NOT incorrect when they look at his actions and his tv shows and say, wow, those Americans are horrible.
     
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    Hehehehe, I did not consider it brutal, I considered it childish, ignorant and stupid, but it was a wonderful post for it allowed me to identify and eliminate from my presence, one more idiot.
     
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    I disagree, most American men aren't jerks and don't wish to be. American media does a bad job of depicting typical Americans mainly because most Americans are decent, law abiding folks who don't like a lot of drama in their lives. Little fodder for Hollywood productions.
     
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    My comment on that post was not really directed at you, I just get amazed at women who are threatened by a man opening a door or holding a chair for them and thinking a man is being somehow 'sexist' for doing so. I await a reply from that poster.
     
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    Charlie Sheen is a real live person, the tv show mimics this real live person. It is NOT the other way around, Charlie Sheen was a womanizing, drunken drug addict long before the TV show. Fiction mimics reality, that is FACT.
     
  8. Unifier

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    Because craziness is caused by estrogen. Science says so. :thumbsup:



    I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I totally agree with you here for the most part. I still practice a lot of chivalry. When a woman grows a penis, then I'll treat her like a guy. If she finds being treated like a lady to be offensive, that's her problem not mine. I don't do the whole unisex bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Political correctness is retarded.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sITm0Kx8row&feature=player_embedded"]The Talk - Penis Cut Off - short - YouTube[/ame]

    You guys live in a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up country if this is entertainment.
     
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    Feminists have caused women to be confused about their innate love of the male phallus. It's really love-hate. Once a woman accepts a man she believes his penis is hers to do with as she pleases. Men should make women pay more for the privilege granting a woman access to their penises.
     
  11. PatrickT

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    Once men realize that no matter what they do it will be wrong, the only logical course is to ignore the whole thing. It's not unlike being told that the only reason you didn't vote for the racist in the White House is because you're a racist. You realize no matter what you do it will be wrong so you shrug and go about your business.

    You also have to realize that a woman screaming at you is being assertive. If you turn around and walk off you're being domineering and aggressive.
     
  12. Up On the Governor

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    Really? You were waiting? Sorry, my job demands most of my time. Threatened? No. The act itself is not sexist, it is just incredibly stupid. The way he words things is what makes him sexist. "Insanity of the sweeter gender?" YGTBSM. Also make a note of how he reacted. He is an oversensitive nutjob. I call it like I see it.

    Do you know when the act of opening doors for women started? Do you know why? You still want to do it today? Personally, I walk through another door if some guy feels compelled to do it. I am an officer in the military and beyond that a fighter pilot. I serve the people, the people do not serve me.

    Testosterone is linked to violence and aggression. :thumbsup: It is not so much the hormones themselves, but the varying degrees of which can screw people up. Am I crazy? Probably. I kill people for a living. I bet I am all sorts of (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up. Is it because I am a female? No. All people are crazy- insanity is not gender specific.



    This is where your "chivalry" blurs with sexism. You do not want to acknowledge women as equals. You should hold the door open for everyone, regardless if you want to mate with them or not.

    Oh please. Who the hell hates penises? They are grand. But I will say if a man ever sexually harasses me, I will mutilate him to the point where he could never assault another woman. I do not know what that (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) was doing it for, but my situation is the only acceptable case to cut off or cut into a man's penis.

    Do I think my fiancé's penis is mine? No. He is free to do whatever he wants with it. Stick it in a pie, power outlet, dress it up, whatever. He can even stick it in another woman, but he will probably not be my fiancé anymore.

    Make us pay more for the privilege? Do you have your prostitution license or something?
     
  13. Unifier

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    This is where you are confused. Thanks to feminism, western culture no longer understands the difference between two things being equal in value and two things being the same. It believes that things have to be identical in order to be equal. Which is wrong.

    Men and women are equal but different. Nature designed them that way for a specific purpose. Because they each have natural strengths and deficiencies that compliment the other. They are yin and yang. Both are equally necessary to propagate the species. If they were the same, nature would have weeded one out or merged the two into a single sex by now. Both would not be necessary. Evolution eliminates that which is unnecessary.
     
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    Understood, I'm busy too. Opening a door or holding a chair is part of being kind and showing manners in society. Do you also think that shaking hands is 'stupid' as well?

    I would guess whatever you think you are wrong. I have heard many ludicrous explanations one of which says men did it to avoid assassination attempts so they let the woman go first. Probably thought up by some lame feminist.

    The best explanation is the medieval woman's wardrobe as they used to wear dresses that were long and heavy and often dragged on the floor. They had to lift it when entering a door to keep from stepping on it or dragging it so men would help. The tradition carried on through the billions of wardrobe changes women have gone through over the centuries.

    That seems pretty frigid. I am a man and have had younger men hold the door for me and I thanked them. I wouldn't think of turning and walking through another door. To me that would be insulting toward someone just trying to be kind and show respect. Heck I have had women hold the door for me too on occasion. What is the problem here?

    I honor your service to the country as equally as I would any man. I think it is a bit over the top to think that a man is 'serving' you by opening the door. Maybe you could think of it like you are providing a service and the man is providing a service. That could loosen that chip on your shoulder and relieve of some tension.

    Estrogen is linked to nastiness and sometimes a periodic hell for men. Probably the cause of more divorce than anything else.

    Women are equally adept at killing people as men, I would not argue that. That doesn't mean you should consider yourself anything like a man or know why a man does something nice for you. Do like us men and just enjoy your sexuality and appreciate the opposite sex and realize that there are some things you'll never really understand. Men have been doing that for ages.

    That's just stupid. Who wants to play 'doorman' for everyone going through a door at say Wal Mart? They have electric doors anyway or they are just wide open.

    Not my point...I think those gals were using the opportunity to talk about their favorite subject. In the case of an assault, all bets are off. At that point the aggressor has (IMO) shed their humanity and anything goes in stopping them.

    That's funny :-D However you are laying claim to it in a sense by demanding to be the only woman who can use it in exchange for your presence. But then, the same goes for him and YOUR Errrr...parts.

    I just think that men have more to overcome in that they have more prevalent sexual urges than women which makes a lot of them be less picky when it comes to women so a lot of women get away with screwing men over or withholding sex to get what they want. I just think that a man should be aware of just what he is getting from a relationship besides sex.

    I have said this before in other threads here that each sex is defined by the other. The gestures we perform are meant to support each other not denigrate each other as you seem to have been taught. Look, I open the door for you, you give me a pretty smile which is more than enough 'payment' for my trouble. No other motives other than being nice to each other. You open the door for me, I thank you and give you a nice smile....How hard is that?
     
  15. Up On the Governor

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    So because we are physically different, you have to hold the door open for me? This is not a discussion about the physical differences between men and women. This conversation is about you thinking it is noble to open a door for a woman.
     
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    Pulling my chair out is a huge (*)(*)(*)(*)ing "no." Holding the door is harder to discuss because I hold it for anyone a few steps away. For the sake of this discussion, let us talk about men purposely holding the door for women because they think they have to or that is "noble" or some bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    No, that is not what I thought.

    That is what I was getting at. It is completely stupid now.

    I am a frigid person. I will hold the door for someone if they are close and I do not care if they do it. Agreed that is just being courteous. To bring this back to the topic of concern, if a man purposely waits more than a second to open a door for me, I am going to ignore his gesture.

    You do not have to honor my service. I do it because I want to. It is my pleasure and I especially do not think my service is worth more than any man's. I do not want any civilian to "serve" me . In any way. If you want to have an even exchange of service, remember to pay your taxes so I get paid. Do not bring doors and chairs into it.

    Ha. We could continue to circle the table here, but the result will be the acknowledgment that all humans are crazy.

    Trust me, I have been a mental enigma for people. Mentally, I am way more a man than I am a woman. Physically, I am very much a woman and would not want it any other way. I love being a woman, so I am not sure where you get off thinking I consider myself "anything like a man." I know why men do nice things. They want to get in my pants.



    Everyone? We are talking people within a certain radius. Wal Mart is an iffy discussion though. No one wants to touch the doors there. Whoever opens the door for anyone there is very noble.



    The women on that show like food above all else. Or at least they look like they do. No penis wants anything to do with them.

    No, it is just an exchange. Like you finished this point with. If he gets to bang other women, I get to bang other men. My parts? You can call it a vag, gut locker, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) wrinkle, whatever. I am crude and do not care.


    Hmmm? Any woman that withholds sex is just a brat. There are plenty of ways to get your point across in the "argument." First part is communicating clearly and logically. Second part is not actually getting into an argument in the first place. Why did I list this second? To be funny about the content of my first statement. But do not get me wrong, my fiancé and I have our differences, we just know how to handle it: get the other one drunk.

    You open the door for me assuming I am only a few steps away, you get a "thank you, sir." No smile. Just a simple expression of gratitude.
     
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    I think you might be misreading male intentions a bit. Men enjoy doing those things for women. It is in our DNA to provide and protect. Humans are made for procreation. Females are less able to function when pregnant and, for a typical, well-adjusted male, the act of protection, an providing is fulfilling just the same as it is fulfilling for well-adjusted females to give birth.

    Like a handshake it takes two to cooperate. Some feminists have abandoned their responsibility to their own sex in their zeal to be just like men and to 'weenie-whack' males at every opportunity.

    K....



    But now we do it for other reasons...see above.

    I see with you 'you snooze you lose'...:-D Actually waiting before opening a door is just a bit creepy.

    Learn how to take a compliment and stop trying to one-up everyone. A simple 'thank you' would have shown a bit more class.

    Yes, but most of us have the good sense to act as if we are not. (using your context that is) That being said, we also have the capacity for tolerance and understanding where appropriate.

    The truly crazy have chemical imbalances that cause them to become psychotic. It is an illness.

    OK then that explains what you have been saying. I think I understand now...mentally you feel in direct competition with men but, at the same time you are attracted to men. I didn't mean to call you a man that wasn't my intention here.


    Which proves undeniably that you are a woman. Men are in a constant state of 'want' when it comes to sex. The fact that the overwhelming majority exhibit good manners is an insight into male nurturing behavior. Think about it.

    I forgot, women have that EEEWWWW factor.

    Which is why they were discussing the disgusting topic of a woman cutting off a man's penis I guess.

    Making and keeping a commitment to each other is a much higher state of consciousness than serial screwing. OK..too much information there...wrinkle? That's cute.

    'Communicating clearly and logically'....darn, you DO think like a man. Ha Ha

    BRRRRRRRR.........
     
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    I am not pregnant, I will not be pregnant, and it is my sworn duty to protect. I do not need protection from you nor do many other women. If you have a pregnant wife, by all means, open the door for her. I do not care if opening a door for me satiates your need to try and "provide" for me. It is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing door. It is not like you are moving the Great Wall so I can get into China.

    I do hope you are not equating me to a Feminazi. I hate them more than I hate your desire to act like a knight. My responsibility to my own sex? You mean like be a good role model to girls so they do not grow up giving blow jobs for coke? OK. I think I can do that. Otherwise I have no responsibility to my gender.


    You are just trying to justify a silly act.



    Unless you are getting paid $12.00/hour at the Mandarin Oriental to open the door, do not stand by it waiting.

    I do not like compliments. I am not trying to one-up anyone. In fact, my intention is the exact opposite. If I had thanked you, I would have acknowledged that I do my job for honor and appreciation.

    Thanks, Doogie Howser. I need the medical debrief.


    I am not in competition with anyone. No (*)(*)(*)(*) I am attracted to men.

    I was worried about proving myself to be a woman. I was going to take a picture of how clean my toilet seat is instead. Glad that weight is off my shoulders. You guys are nurturers? Then why do all of my friends (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the man not staying at home with the kids? I take it you understand humor, so I am not going to add a stupid smiley face like I have to for other people just so you do not take offense to that comment.

    I ate grubs and drank (*)(*)(*)(*) in survival training. Safe to assume I do not have an "ew" factor. It has more to do with me not wanting Hepatitis A-Z trying to get cheap printer paper. You know what lurks in Wal Mart.

    They were hungry?

    Let us see if we can survive a year of engagement before we pretend I am capable of such a high state of consciousness.

    Cold? Shrinky dink.
     
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    OK you are very concrete in your thinking. I was trying to convey a concept...my bad.

    I didn't and wouldn't call you that. Children learn by watching and seeing a strong woman as a military pilot seems to me to be a pretty good role model.

    No comment


    Whatever

    I understand that in a twisted way. I think appreciation is the key. Being able to appreciate requires knowing what it feels like. Really a 2-way street.


    Just trying to decode your use of 'crazy' again...my bad for trying to convey a concept.

    Ok then..

    Actually I would check your dishcloth, your keyboard or your hands. Chances are there are many more microbes on them as compared to a toilet seat.

    Men will do most anything for sex. Tell them that. It will help.

    I once ate an Agave worm...does that count? I think my buddy put some of that in my beer one time...(when I was young and stupid). No contest..You win.

    You have worse in your nasal passages....

    :-D

    From your posts I discern that you are a very capable person.


    Don't worry it's only temporary.
     
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    I don’t have to. I do it out of courtesy. You say “noble to open a door for a woman” like it’s some kind of insult. When I open a door for a lady, it’s always done from the most genuine position of respect. Although, for what it’s worth, I probably wouldn’t open a door for you since I get the impression you’d probably make an issue out of it.

    Men and women are different beyond just our below-the-belt equipment. There are also chemical differences in our physiology. And I am grateful for them. Those differences are what make life worth living. They should be celebrated, not ignored.

    What I find sad and disgusting is that our culture teaches women that they have no value and cannot be taken seriously unless they behave like men. THAT is truly sexist.
     
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    I disagree.
    I absolutely believe men feel just as deeply and passionately as women.

    Do you have children?
    Would you die for that child?
    Is that an intellectual or emotional response?
     
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    I am a divorced father with 4 children from a 17 year marriage.
    I have custody of 2 of my children,
    My ex has custody of 2 although 1 is now 19 and living on her own.
    My ex has a masters degree, I am still 24 credits short of my bachelors.

    I paid over 2K p/month in Alimony and Child Support until my ex re-married.
    I am still paying child support although I have 2 dependents and she has 1 at this time.

    The only social services I have found for single fathers regard counseling for the parent/child relationship.

    It seems there are few assumptions
    - Men are inadequate as care-givers and parents for children
    - Men do not have the same financial/legal/counseling needs as women when in the same position as a single parent navigating a divorce
    - Men do not need the same assistance and support network women do raising children on their own
    - Men's contribution to their children is financial, not mentoring or emotional

    I truly believe there is an absolute bias in our society regarding men as superfluant in regards to familial relationships.

    I further believe many of our social ills are directly related to this disenfranchisement of men.

    The men I know who are single fathers are way more on top of where there children are, who their friends are and actively mentoring their children than most of the women I know.

    I am constantly frustrated and flabbergasted by children (12 - 14 are my childrens peer group) who act as intermediaries for their parents on issues of where they will be who they will be with when their parents have never even met me.

    The child of a woman I never met until last night spent the weekend at my house after I picked her up from school on Friday afternoon - this was coordinated by my children and their friend and I never spoke to this girls mother until after we got to my house Friday afternoon and I insisted on calling her mother to verify her daughter was at my home under my supervision and that she was aware and approved this situation.

    The children continued to free-form weekend activities where I wound up being recruited for a halloween activity and the mother of this girl seemed a little exasperated when I would call to confirm the girls plans - go figure

    I have been a single parent now for 3 years and find this situation to be more the rule rather than the exception.
     
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    Your bad.

    Until they see how much of an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) I am, that I drink and smoke, that I do not have any remorse for what I have done, ect...

    I am not a good role model so I will shirk that responsibility. There are plenty of other female pilots better suited for that.


    If it were a two-way street, I would not necessarily be caught behind your slow-moving logic. :sun:

    Why mine? I am not the one that started that conversation. Ask Herkdriver.

    It was a joke. I do not (*)(*)(*)(*) on my toilet seat, hence why it would be more clean.

    You have no idea...


    I am pretty intelligent, but that has nothing to do with whether or not I can stand a long-term relationship.

    My cold, prickly disposition is not.
     
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    Yep, that's what I said.

    Shirking is a lot easier, but then, one does generate waves that affect others. It's kind of rude to think one is an island.

    Whatever...

    Whatever....

    You need to work in your delivery.

    Exactly.

    Yes it does. You just don't realize it....And maybe never will.

    Ya..so?
     

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