Mississippi to ban Contraceptives?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by mertex, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. mertex

    mertex New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Messages:
    11,066
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Darn right. And hopefully I will be right again in 2012.
     
    toddwv and (deleted member) like this.
  2. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    8,386
    Likes Received:
    2,557
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Look, as far as the proposed amendment.....it is being promoted by a group called Personhood USA. I'm uncomfortable with an outside group going in to a state to promote their agenda. It would be different if this were an organic movement brought about by the citizens, but that isn't the case. I liken it to HSUS going into states with breeding legislation to promote their agenda.

    On the other hand, PP is not going away and the numbers are consistent with around 1 million abortions annually. Not a bad business to be in and why would they want to see it decline?

    It's a sick reflection on our society to abort (kill) over 1 million babies annually in this country. Do you really want to defend that? The woman's right to choose has been abused and promoted by greed. It's no different than any other business fighting to remain profitable. Given the choices, I'd like to see abortions outlawed with limited exceptions allowed. All methods of contraception have a lower failure rate than the number of abortions could ever justify. A little personal responsibility would go a long way, but PP has tried to take that out of the equation and abortion is apparently now seen (as evidenced by the data) as just another birth control method. The backlash is predictable.
     
  3. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2008
    Messages:
    20,931
    Likes Received:
    179
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Good for Mississippi.
     
  4. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if an embryo is a person then we cant deport pregnant illegals anymore
     
  5. Agent Zero

    Agent Zero New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2009
    Messages:
    15,298
    Likes Received:
    28
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This should really help with teen pregnancy.
     
  6. Landru Guide Us

    Landru Guide Us Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2011
    Messages:
    7,002
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Perfect. I'd love to have a reporter ask that question at a GOP debate: "Sir, isn't an embryo conceived in the United States an American citizen, protected by the Constitution from deportation? Sir, isn't that the case?"

    Their microcephalic heads would explode.
     
  7. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2008
    Messages:
    20,931
    Likes Received:
    179
    Trophy Points:
    63
    So did the pro-death movement just admit the baby in the womb is a person?

    Oops. See what happens when you try and play kindergarten games in politics? You end up compromising your own position on the subject....lol.
     
  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    no, but thats what the law says.

    have you been paying attention at ALL?
     
  9. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    8,386
    Likes Received:
    2,557
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Personally, I'm sick of this thinking that babies are 'disposable' unless one is truly 'ready' to have a baby. Had we held to that line of thinking, we would never have had kids. When we had ours, we weren't 'ready'. We made too little money, had no clear career path...yada, yada, yada.

    My boys are grown now and having and raising them is easily the best thing I have ever done with my life.

    Look at the data and you will see that it's the 20-24 year old women having the greatest number of abortions. These are grown people that should know how to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. It just shows that kids are being put behind a whole laundry list of other priorities and that's sick. I honestly don't know what to make of people that think their personal desires justify killing babies.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    because they arent babies
     
  11. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    8,386
    Likes Received:
    2,557
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Easy for you to say...you've already been born.
     
  12. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    lol actually its the only way anyone can say anything....is once theyve been born
     
    OKgrannie and (deleted member) like this.
  13. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    8,386
    Likes Received:
    2,557
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Killing 1 million babies every year ain't funny.
     
  14. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    its also a fraction of what the BC pill most likely kills if you think a fertilized egg is a baby
     
  15. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2010
    Messages:
    7,830
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Whenever you take Anti-Abortion or Birth Control opposition to it's logical conclusion it results in criminalizing some very private behavior.

    The resulting laws would also be near impossible to enforce.
     
  16. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,287
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No it is not and no where does it say so.

    So if you believe a woman is not free to control her fertility cycle then say so else you have no point here.
     
  17. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,287
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Different issue. Once she is pregnant she is no longer fertile.
     
  18. CVA-60

    CVA-60 Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2011
    Messages:
    1,099
    Likes Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It's obvious you have never been to Detroit.
     
  19. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    so when is she pregnant?

    beacuse if its when the sperm fertilized the egg then your earlier comments seem ludicrious
     
  20. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if an embryo is a person then every miscarriage needs to involve the coroner as well as a possible murder investigation
     
  21. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    voter choice on someone elses rights? when has that ever worked
     
  22. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,348
    Likes Received:
    39,287
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Geez didn't you ever learn anything about biology?

    "From a medical point of view, however, pregnancy does not occur at the moment of conception. It occurs, instead, when an embryo (a fertilized egg that has divided over the course of a few days) attaches itself to the woman's uterus, a stage known as implantation. It is at implantation that a woman's hormonal system begins to respond to her embryo, a response that initiates a cascade of dramatic physiological changes in her body. This means that if a sperm fertilizes an egg after a couple has intercourse, but the fertilized egg never implants inside the woman's uterus, then the woman - from a medical point of view - was never pregnant. Therefore, she can be described as having menstruated, rather than as having experienced a miscarriage or a spontaneous abortion."
    http://writ.news.findlaw.com/colb/20071015.html
     
  23. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    so you dont agree with the Miss law....which defines a person as a fertilized egg.

    boy that was difficult to drag out of you lol
     
  24. Black Monarch

    Black Monarch New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    55
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Pro-life propaganda sites are not "credible medical sources"

    Answer: "No, the 14th Amendment specifies that they have to be BORN here, not conceived here"
     
  25. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,092
    Likes Received:
    37,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree....should I ask you again?
     

Share This Page