MOD ANNOUNCEMENT: Member Debates (Input needed)

Again, because it is not how the site is run, discussion is open to everybody. I did not make that up, that comes from the Mods.

Of course they are, closed discussion is being granted to the ones that want it on the forum. You have already heard many will not take part, no doubt a lot less people than are on the site, that means just a few. As you [they] said this was brought up before by people that wanted it. I say fine, let those few have it, good idea. The debate itself should be in the group area, that's all. The open discussion can be on the board, with a Link directing people to the debate itself. I am not trying to stop anything, I am trying to keep the site as it is intended. Now if I wanted a closed discussion, and demanded it be on the open thread area and close it off to everybody else, what would they say?, what would you say? ''Take it to group, we have an area for privacy''

As it has been said already, people have requested it before, this is nothing new.

Then fine do it on a open thread and judge it.

This is the same thing, a topic others would like to discuss as well. You are sectioning off a thread for a one on one discussion. The idea of the one on one is to not have others around [on what is supposed to be an open board.]

It is not a complaint but merely sharing with you what we were told. It was requested and refused. The group area covers all these situations.

Impossible to read their comments? Sorry that's not even close, a person would have to be blind.

I was curious if anybody said anything about it. I did not know how far it went, she would have to be notified,,I was wondering if there was an OK yet.

Maybe,,it's possible. I would think open debate attracts more. It could still be advertised if it were in the group area, no different.

Who me? I am not causing any problem, I think for the people that want it it's a very good idea. I am just saying it should be in the proper area, and the open boards is not it. That's not a problem, it's a suggestion, you have to hit a button to go there, it amounts to a different button. Why some do not like that I have no idea. It is only a few people that will participate, it's perfect.

What attention? this is a debate, not a sporting event...LOL Look you have a button that says GO HERE,,it's that simple really. They could even work it so a thread directs you, same thing. The thread for the open discussion would have the Link,,exciting huh? LOL
It would be getting more attention than other threads, right?

On the contrary, I'm not changing a thing. I am not changing a open discussion board to a closed one, I am not changing the theme of the site, and I am surely not stopping anything.
I do not understand why you feel having it in the group area is not ''good enough'' for you [or them], when it is for others. Why this is to be given special treatment?,,it's a debate for Gods sake, not the World series. Is the group area for Lepers or something?, will it not accommodate two people speaking? The group area is always where special discussion takes place. That's where it goes.
I am sorry you are not familiar with it, go take a look, it's the same thing,,why are you fighting it so bad,,,why? You can have exactly what you want and not change a thing here, that's why the owner did it. I just explained how everybody will know about it, a Link takes you right there.

What do you think?, you go there and there are flashing signs SOCIAL CLUB? LOL,,it's a page and you set it up as you like, bring A couch if you want...LOL For some strange reason you have this picture in your mind of that area and you cant get out of your head, what do you think it is? what do you think will be missing? I really think you should look at it, I'm sure you would like it...

What "one"? What "other"? Again, you're trying to make it sound as if you're somehow being treated unfairly. I frankly don't see it.

Good, so set it up there and stop crying. It's not a spooky place...

I have rarely been on the thread...next! Whats froggers reason by the way?

This is elevated discussion?

 

Best butt usually wins, in my experiences anyway.

 

You?, I dont think so, I know some were very vocal about it. I think it is a good idea, I just think the debate itself is better off in the group area, everybody can read it and then have the open discussion thread on the board. You can have a Link there for the debate, this way we are not tying up an entire thread and the site remains what it is supposed to be.,,probably save some precious space too.

 

Yes, I really see declaring a winner useless. Then all people will discuss is the bad vote...LOL Seriously. Yeah, as far as not having the time that's what many of the posters here said, they did say they would like to at least read the debate, that's why I suggested the members area. If all you are going to do is read it, why tie up an entire thread ?,,that's just stupid,,and awful selfish..

 

What's the purpose of having judges if there's nothing to judge?

 

Umm...to give petty tyrants a sense of importance?

 

Couldn't we have pretty girls instead?

 

Then I will be undefeated and unrivaled.

 

They do not exist on message boards.

 

"Tyrants"? This is just an internet forum...

I thought they were included, judges or not.

 

What you suggest makes sense. I did not read the whole thread. I thought it would be funnier just to jump in.

 

Your point being...?

 

I don't see the harm in having a few judges decide who wins a debate. People are freaking out over it and I have no idea why. It's not like you are shunned from society if you lose.

 

In the Spirit of fairness, everybody should be represented...

 

What good does it do? Is anyone gonna be edified by knowing which side made the best case according to a chosen few?

 

HAHAHAHAH,,You kidding you'll get shot!

 

I don't understand. If that is available to everyone why was it denied to you before and how is it denied to you now?

Can you post a link to the discussion you are talking about?

 

I live a life of danger.

 

I have been saying it the entire THREAD!!,,,Use the group area. This way the only ones that can get on is the people who are invited....That's how group works.
But for some reason some people think the Boogie man is there,,,LOL For God sake it's the only place that makes sense. You do not tie up an entire thread for a couple of people debating. They can then post the entire thing on the board so people can debate it..[And make fun of the Loser of course]...HAHAHAAH
Their gonna kill the poor guy..

 

While we are at it, how about forming debate teams and have a poster draft? The team captain (one of the more "popular" posters) drafts posters onto their team. It is a fun way to polarize everyone.

 

I'm not sure what you mean dread. It was offered to the Religious group like over a year ago, I had a private conversation with a Mod about it. There are groups using these areas now for various things. The conservatives have one and so do the Liberals,,,geez we have a lot of members in ours.
Now when it was offered I passed the information back to the group, they decided not to. But it does end trolling because the only people there are the people you invite, and you can have them leave as well, just take their name off the list.,,,so you can actually Ban them.
Want more info?,,just hit me private so we do not tie this up.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAH....LOL

 

Not buying it. Clearly there's an axe being ground here.

I honestly don't see any problem with their being open threads (99% of the site's content) and closed debate competitions. The thing you keep coming back to is this complaint that you were told you couldn't close off the religion forum - AN ENTIRE SUBFORUM! So now you're pitching a fit about something, that by comparison, would comprise a tiny fraction of the content here in the form of a debate competition. I can think of one word that describes that very well: spiteful.

That would be like herding cats.

They aren't being prevented from discussing it! They can quote from the debate and discuss it in an open thread of their own making. Meanwhile, you wanted to shut people out of an entire subforum! The two situations are not remotely comparable.

99% of the board stays open, and you're complaining about the 1% (probably less than 1%) that wouldn't be - even though you can copy and paste from the debate and discuss it in an open thread of your own making.

I call BS on that. You are using this thread to renew the complaint. It's beyond obvious.

Well, thankfully you don't determine what is the 'proper' area. And I don't buy for one second that this is your real concern.

Neither does this. The argument you're making is starting to sound like a child who has 99% percent of the haul from trick-or-treating, but throws a tantrum because he can't have his little brother's 1%, too. Not having that 1% somehow magically turns all the candy into bad-tasting medicine.

Neither does this. The major theme of the site remains open discussion. If what you really want is an open site, then the social groups have to go as well - because they aren't open, and that violates what you say is the theme of the site.

Like I said earlier, I've seen the actual sort of thing in action. Nobody threw a fit about it. Heck - the selection process was way more exclusive than how this sounds - you had to actually be a member of one of the closed political party groups AND be selected by your peers in that group. People who were interested followed the debates, and those that weren't went right on having their open discussions on the rest of the forum.

 

Some people might like a "competition" of sorts. If people don't want to do it then they don't have to. In fact, I probably wouldn't do it myself but it might be interesting to watch.

 

Exactly. I don't think anyone is operating under the delusion that winning a debate competition in an online forum is some huge prize.

It seriously sounds like the idea is running up against the kind of people who can't stand to see someone else having fun at something they don't enjoy themselves.