Mom & Daughter Shoot Robber in Tulsa, OK.

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  1. Llewellyn Moss

    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

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    If Obama had a son, he would look like the robber.

     
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    Proof positive, if any be needed, regular people do often defend themselves from Armed Robbers.
    Now met us hear someone say defensive gun uses are rare.
     
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    Well here we have it, yet liberals claim it takes extensive police and/or military training to use a firearm. The reality is what we just looked at -- most defensive use of a firearm is at arms length.
     
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    Why did that guy keep coming back ?
    He kept stumbling all around and coming back !
    Was he a glutton for punishment ???

    I really want to know !
     
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    Are you kidding? There are a thousand headlines of innocent people being killed by guns
     
  6. DoctorWho

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    Yes innocent baby faced drug dealing scum.

    I do feel sorry for the kids shot in bed in apartments by those scum, however, gun control will never prevent those shootings, since many of them occur with guns stolen from Military and Police Armories.
     
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    Gun control can and does save lives
     
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    We have gun control, it works only as far as law abiding citizens.
    We have illegal drug control too, that has failed miserably, can't you see a partnership ?
    Huge money in drugs, and only if you eliminate the associated problem with illegal drugs and induced Psychotic behaviour secondary to drugs and in some cases, prescribed medication, can you ever hope to effect any change in murders.
     
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    We need more gun control
     
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    We need more criminal control.
    Your gun control only works on law abiding citizens, why burden them further ?
     
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    Nope. It saves lives
     
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    And if the robber had only half an idea what he was doing the mother and daughter would both be dead. Mom and daughter were very lucky.
     
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    That is your average criminal.
     
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    And that's why you keep firing until the threat is stopped.
     
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    And fire center mass, and use an adequate caliber and the best commercial defensive Ammo available.
     
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    This is how you do it.

     
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    Well, that was indeed, some colourful narrative and metaphors.
     
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    As well as thousands of headlines of individuals dying as a result of the use of illicit narcotic substances, that are supposedly prohibited under all circumstances.
     
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    That is an anecdote. Anecdotes say absolutely nothing about broader trends.

    In fact, there are far more cases of people being threatened by guns than of people defending themselves with one. In many of the latter cases, it is also done in an illegal fashion.

    You can read the study at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1730664/
     
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    Under Barack Obama, the center for disease control found that successful, legal defensive uses of a firearm are at least as common as criminal uses of a firearm.
     
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    That "study" is a load of bovine excrement. We know from prior studies that good people use guns for self-defense far more often than criminals use them, and such confrontations are resolved without a shot being fired 95+% of the time. This "study" is clearly trying to claim those uses are unlawful, which is reprehensible.
     
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    I wonder how the background check went for the robber to get that sawed off shotgun? Probably got that through the local sporting goods store, huh?

    If not, how did the guy who sold it to him, get past the laws? I guess we need stronger laws. That will stop this. uh huh........
     
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    The best part is how he doesn't even look at the guy he dropped as he walks past.
     
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    I'm sure you understand if I am somewhat...hesitant to listen to a person who regards one single individual case as all the "proof" he could ever need over a three-year study that includes a number of actual judges examining cases to determine if the involvement of firearms was lawful or not.

    But you are perfectly free to provide peer-reviewed studies that support what you are saying. I'm waiting.
     
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    How confident are you that all lawful uses of firearms, discharged or not, were captured in the study's data?
     
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