More black babies aborted than born in New York City

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    I knew you would go there. And i support them. What I didnt support was idiots claiming those programs were cut.

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    Personally responsible would not be getting Pregnant unwanted to begin with.
     
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    Please feel free to show proof that ANYONE forced black women to have abortions.......
     
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    Please provide evidence he stated or hell even hinted at that?
     
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    The Colorado program, I think it was, had been privately funded. Results were outstanding. The state legislature was asked to continue the funding (which would actually SAVE the taxpayer a bundle). The legislature, dominated by Republicans, refused to take over the funding. They didn't cut anything, most especially unwanted pregnancies.

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    At some point, it makes sense to recognize that this isn't working, and to try something a little different.
     
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    "Implicit bias and reduced opportunity". Nah. More like criminal records and faulty judgment. We're all equal, it's 2015. Get with the times. If they haven't been able to stand as equals despite advancements, the sad and unfortunate truth may be: They never will.
     
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    I think the hint was the idea that PP, being racist and eugenicist as well as immoral, has a hidden agenda to reduce the black population by systematic race-based abortion.

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    So what do you recommend? Extermination? Sterilization? Benign neglect?
     
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    Or perhaps teaching more about real life and responsibilty in school

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    Its hardly hidden.....

    If PP was backed by Conservatives the left would want it shut down for being racist since there is a huge disparity in percentages by demographics.
     
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    Right there in his title: SHOCK: More black babies aborted than born in New York City !


    Why is that a "shock" ?

    Exactly as many fetuses were aborted as women who wanted them aborted. UNLESS he is contending that someone FORCED these women to abort , there is nothing shocking about it.

    NO one forced these women to CHOOSE abortion.
     
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    If you want to debate the word shocking or shock do it with someone else.. I personally find that amount of abortions shocking but i am sane.

    No one suggested they were forced.. So now you are doubling down on the same tired strawmen?
     
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    Who wouldn't ...but people are humans, they have unwanted pregnancies....you can wail and moan about how imperfect humans are but that won't change humans...


    IF you think people who get abortions aren't personally responsible then why do you want them to be parents? So you can whine about their parenting skills?

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    OK, YOU are "shocked " at the numbers.....so....
     
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    Says who? They remedied the situation
     
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    No, it's better than that even. PP is kidnapping black women, forcing them to get pregnant and THEN giving them forced abortions. You almost had it right, just missed a step. :wink:
     
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    My understanding is that's also being done, and is also ineffective.

    Except you are as well aware as I am that Planned Parenthood isn't aggressively going door to door looking for black fetuses to abort. They are passive like any business, advertising their services and waiting for people to come in and use them. So the huge disparity by demographics is really a disparity in relative rates of unwanted pregnancy. For some reason, black girls tend to get pregnant at a rate substantially exceeding girls of any other demographic. I seriously doubt that they engage in substantially more sex. So I speculate that they are using substantially less contraception. And that CAN be improved dramatically, if states want to.
     
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    Being responsible hardly requires perfection.

    Yes i am shocked.. You seem to have an issue with the word. However shocked does not mean forced now matter how badly you spin or nor how badly you flamebait.

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    Let this sink in.. Think about it..

    Location location location....
     
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    So you think they are getting Prego because they know the local bus goes by a PP and wouldn't otherwise?
    You realize they also offer BC too right?
     
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    Then what are you "shocked" about?

    That women have abortions? :eekeyes:

    That black women have as much right to have abortions as anyone else?

    What?

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    YES, PP wants to offer ACCESSIBLE health care for poor women.....that means putting clinics where there's a NEED...
     
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    They dont seem interested in the BC now do they?
     
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    But...but...location location location!
     
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    The number of course.

    PP is hardly the only place to get medical attention.
     
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    Ethnic cleansing has such an ugly tone. I think the progressives would prefer if you called it gentrification of the womb.
     
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    N o t h i n g. To quote Paul Ryan "We support equal opportunity, not equal outcomes." 50 years of government policy later, and we've still yet to make things "equal". Actually, scratch that. We've made things equal for "some" but not "all". Or to be more specific: For those who kicked ass, rather than having their asses kicked.

    Such is the way of the world. Now, I promote policies that will grow the economy in general but whether a certain demographic group is able to take advantage of them or not, is up to them and the choices they make.
     
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    Cant *force* them to go now can we ? ;)
     
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    Yes, they do...safe , affordable , reliable.....and the most expensive ones are the most reliable and not everyone can afford them.

    PLUS NO woman is under ANY obligation to use birth control......
     
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    Thanks a lot Liberals.When is someone gonna explain it to :
    #BlackLivesMatter. Or who help found the KKK { Ku Klux Klan }
    Or were Segregationist opposing President Eisenhowers 1957 Civil
    Rights agenda.Certainly not the Republicans.
    But again ... tell that to #BlackLivesmatter.
    Also how Baseball Legend Jackie Robinson was an active Republican.
    His middle name { Jack Theodore Robinson }
    Theodore Roosevelt called { Father of the teddy bear } was The youngest
    ever president and also the only president ever born in N.Y.city.
    Was the leader of the Republican Party and a leading force of the
    Progressive era.
     
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    Back to the idea that these abortions were forced and not by choice?
     

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