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More icons of evolution go down in flames in 2014

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  1. NaturalBorn

    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Evolutionists claimed that some land mammal gradually shapeshifted into whales. Their nostrils slid back on their heads and almost every organ of a whale anatomy adjusted to a sea creature except one: The loudly touted whale's "pelvic and leg bones".
    Evolution scientists published the results of their research in the "Creationist" journal [sic] Evolution, [SUP]2[/SUP] concluding that the bones are fully functional and necessary to whale reproduction (as Creation scientists have known).

    Like all other parts of a whale the "pelvic and leg bones" show no hint of any evolution, ever. The whale evolution myth drowned.

    Second, the Darwinists claimed a solar-powered sea slug as another iconic example of an animal that supposedly captured chloroplast plant genes therefore, they claim proves, slugs evolved from a plant.

    Real scientist researchers sequenced the DNA from baby slugs which did not yet interacted with algae.[SUP]1[/SUP] They found no plant genes in the baby slugs removing one more myth from the evolutionist's fairy tales.

    Since the out-of-place genes in sea slugs and bones in the whales could not have possibly been inherited from some evolutionary ancestor, the only explanation remaining is, God designed them to fit and function exactly as they do.

    Sorry folks. You need a better religion.



    1. Bhattacharya, D. et al. 2013. Genome analysis of Elysia chlorotica egg DNA provides no evidence for horizontal gene transfer into the germ line of this Kleptoplastic Mollusc. Molecular Biology and Evolution. 30 (8]: 1843-1852.
    2. Dines, J. P. et al. Sexual selection targets cetacean pelvic bones. Evolution. 68 (11): 3296-3306.
     
    NaturalBorn, Jan 22, 2015
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    any link to back up your specious claims?
     
    Jonsa, Jan 22, 2015
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  3. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    Sometimes I think about supergluing my palm to my face.
     
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  4. NaturalBorn

    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    You need to read more closely before you respond next time.

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    These findings are from YOUR exalted scientists.
     
    NaturalBorn, Jan 22, 2015
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the abstract:
    In other words: it's evolution.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your post does not contain any links.

    Maybe you need to look more closely at what you post next time.
     
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    Please show where "Darwinists" claimed the above.

    I found an article from 2000 that showed that the sea slugs captured the chloroplasts, not the genes. I've also found an article from 1973 about the same thing. I've never heard of such an outlandish idea about the captured chloroplast genes. Why do you keep quoting lies? (i.e. strawmen)
    http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing....8c6475084a02c88dda0b207e&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
    http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/123/1/29.full
     
    perdidochas, Jan 22, 2015
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    Evolution is a load of hoggily wash, I meanz I dont be seeing my Dog turn into no fish there all the proof yall need Then There.
     
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  9. mikemikev

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    True dat. I kept a jar of peanut butter in my cupboard for a month and when I opened it there weren't no ocelots or dragonflies. Science my ass.

    Eat this Atheists!

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    mikemikev, Jan 22, 2015
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    Please tell me you're trolling.
     
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    You need to read more closely this time too. Where did I state there was a URL link?

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    Keep looking, usually one must look past the first page of a Google search to find the truth.
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    The truth is on page 2 of Google. And to think I thought I was wasting time here!
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Since I know I am dealing with liberals/Progressives/atheists here, I posted some links FOR you. I wish liberals would learn to do crap for themselves soon.
     
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    If you have such a link show it. I have never read that anybody claims that sea slugs got their chloroplasts through genes. The only thing I've ever read is that the sea slugs capture the chloroplasts by consuming the algae, either while feeding on the algae, or while feeding on animals that have the algae in symbiosis. Please show me the claims. I'm tired of your lying and your evasion. Please just show me your claims instead of making up junk about looking past the first page of a google search. If those links exist, prove it, otherwise stop the lies.
     
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  17. mikemikev

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    You're conflating views. I'm "hard right" in some key issues in politics, although in my view I'm a rational centrist. Even that is a crass over simplification which conflates my supposed opinions. Whether I believe in Semitic fairytales is a separate question.
     
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    The above doesn't claim that they evolved the chloroplast gene from their ancestor the algae. It claims that the sea slug has acquired the gene from the algae, in a way similar to the way genetic engineers transplant genes from one species to the next. It doesn't claim that the sea slug evolved from the algae.

    The above just says that they probably use their chloroplasts as a food storage device. Again, it does not say that "an animal that supposedly captured chloroplast plant genes therefore, they claim proves, slugs evolved from a plant."

    You are linking to an article that I posted--The above says what I said--that the chloroplasts come from algae that the slug consumes, which is what I've always read. I've never once read a claim from a scientist that the chloroplasts in the sea slug are from genes. I've only read that they are acquired, like this article says. I found articles going back to 1973 that said the same thing. I want proof that the following is truly an evolutionist theory:

    For an iconic theory its strange that I've never heard claimed even once that slugs evolved from a plant. Please show me where this is claimed by an evolutionist.

    Honestly, I think that you aren't truly comprehending what is written in those articles.

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    I'm not liberal, and never have been. The only view I have that could be viewed as liberal is my anti-death penalty stance, and that comes from my pro-life stance. I wish that my fellow conservatives would stop lying about science.
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Once again your lack of reading comprehension skills are amazing. I posted no less than 6 links in previous posts. I know it must be difficult to read any of them since some of them are written in science language, maybe someone can interpret them for you.
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    I notice everyone is attacking the poor little sea slug and leaving the big bad whale alone in their criticism Anyone.want to defend the whale?
     
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    It goes to show that "conservative" is FAR too broad a brush to use to paint people. Of course the same could be said of "liberal" as well.

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    Defend it against what?
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    That the whale was once a cow.
     
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  23. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    You mean that it was once a land animal, as with all of the other cetaceans. There is ample evidence for this. What is there to defend?
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Defend evolution, since all that science can provide are fossils, skeletons and opinions of what those fossils mean.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is far from all that science provides.

    Have you considered attempting higher education?
     
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