More MUSLIM RAPE of children at public pools in Merkel's Germany!

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by El Cid, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Look … right this is now a bad generalization sold as truth which is in reality not this way existing!

    Is it really undeniable fact that particularly all young Muslim men see women as objects and lesser than them? No!
    Sure, there are such Muslims existing and anyone who will deny this is, is living in a pink fairy tale world of BS … BUT this is not valid for all Muslims and your post is lacking this!
    We can now for sure discuss endless about how many of these young Muslims are like you wrote and how many not, but please put aside any generalization for the first aside!

    I know many Christians which will become same way upset about any mini skirt wearing girl women as such Muslims you talk about. So are now Christians same way dangerous fools? For sure not, but why are Muslims suddenly? Only because there is a generalization and even if this is put aside, it is still claimed that majority of them are such fools!

    As Christian religion is Islam also a matter of culture and depends which sort of believing in the religion you have chosen or which is common given form where you are coming or living.
    It is a clash of culture at least and this clash varied from a light touch of differences up to a heavy impact and all refugees coming to us have to accept and follow our culture and compliance and laws of course and everyone who is denying this is only a troll. But everything has 2 sides and so also we have to have some sort of understanding that these differences are for some of them a real shock, but we have to explain this as the other side has to learn and follow what we explain.
     
  2. Caligula

    Caligula Well-Known Member

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    Sigh, this is exactly what I was referring to in my previous post. User Mandelus has already explained a few things.
    I'm not sure if it makes any sense, but I'll try to add my 2 cents in order to clear up the situation. It's up to you to do whatever you want with that info.

    It's absolutely ok (once again: absolutely ok) to be critical of Islam/Muslims and the current refugee situation in Germany.
    I don't expect you to be familiar with these names, might want to google them (and learn something).
    Henryk M Broder is a journalist, reporter, publisher who is highly critical of Islam and has been speaking his mind for years, even decades. He's also highly critical of Merkel and her politics.
    Ralph Giordano, died in 2014, Holocaust survivor, was critical of Islam in his books, TV appearances, talk shows, etc.
    Hamed Abdel-Samad is an Egyptian-German political scientist, author, publisher, critical of Islam and Merkel.
    Jörg Baberowski is a Historian, Professor of Eastern-European and Russian history at the Humboldt University of Berlin. He has also published on topics like violence in totalitarian and non-totalitarian systems, genocide, methods of oppression used by governments, etc. He's critical of Merkel and her refugee politics.
    Gunnar Heinsohn is a sociologist and economist at the University of Bremen. He regularly writes articles criticial about Muslim migration to Europe and has criticized Merkel numerous times for her politics.

    I, living in Germany, am allowed to do what these intellectuals do. I can be critical of Islam/Muslims/Merkel's refugee politics and I can voice my opinion in public just like they do.
    What you are incorrectly referring to is hate speech/hate crime.
    Facebook postings something like, "All Muslims should be sent to Auschwitz, the gas is waiting" will definitely get me into trouble, and rightly so. Some people have done just that and then they complain about getting into trouble with the authorities. Hello??
    If I post something like, "I don't agree with Merkel's politics at all, because ..." or "In my opinion, the number of Muslims/refugees coming to Germany will create problems, because..." nobody will shut me down or even persecute or prosecute me.

    I really hope the difference is clear. However, I have learned here that one cannot fight emotions with facts.
     
  3. xwsmithx

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    The problem is, who decides? As long as the government gets to decide what is legitimate political opposition and what is "hate speech", your speech is NOT free. As I understand it, it's now part of the German constitution that the populace can oppose unconstitutional actions by the government as a constitutional right. I suggest ALL the German people post hateful messages on Facebook and dare the government to lock up everyone.

    Just as an aside, I'm opposed to the notion of "hate crimes" as well, because I don't think the government should be deciding who deserves to be punished more or less based on thought, "Oh, this man killed because of racism and that man killed for burglary, this man deserves greater punishment than that man." No, that's wrong, that's Thought Policing. But that's a different topic from free speech/hate speech.
     
  4. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    The "price of diversity"? Would shooting the assailants dead also be part of the price of diversity....a multicultural graveyard? How about calling the assaults what they really are, the result of stupidity.....Merkels.
     
  5. El Cid

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    The Russians know how to handle the Muslim animal.
    Unlike the neutered metrosexuals of Germany.
     
  6. see you next tuesday

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    The boys should've acted more "american" and shot the girls instead of raping them.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously to propitiate liberals, such as some of the 'usual suspects' in this forum.
     
  8. Caligula

    Caligula Well-Known Member

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    You must be American, at least you sound extremely American. Welcome to unfree planet Earth. According to that definition, no country is really free.
    I for one don't consider it "no freedom of speech" when a society uses rules that enable its people to live a half-way civilized life.
    We could go completely "no rules", but that would never work. Every society needs rules to live by, otherwise we'd have complete armageddon.
    I don't consider it an asset for the world I live in, if "All Muslims should be sent to Auschwitz" is acceptable. I wouldn't want to live in a place that is ok with that. But all that is a different story.
    Bottom line is: you can be critical of Islam, critical of Muslims, critical of Merkel and her politics in Germany, no matter what breitbart, gatestoneinstitute and foxnews tell and feed you.
    Reading this thread alone tells me they have been doing a pretty good job so far.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The entire western world is stricken with liberalism and that's gonna be its downfall.
     
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    This.^
     

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