More Trouble in Coal Country: 370 Mining Jobs Lost in One Blow

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  1. Guno

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    My fist response was to laugh at th people in coal country who believed *President Trump would actually bring back coal , but it is becoming a catastrophe for those families, after being conned by trump and his buddies

    Clean renewables and gas is cleaning coals clock, yet trump cut funding for green energy and training

    now appalachia once again will take the brunt of politics

    Sad

    "If President Donald Trump is serious about bringing coal back, he has his work cut out for him. The President’s first year in office was marked by a slew of coal power plant closings, and his second year is already off to a bad start. Mepco, Inc. announced that it will close a Pennsylvania mine, eliminating 370 coal jobs. The cuts will occur in two waves as the 4 West Mine in Greene County winds down operations this spring. The blow to local workers is painful enough, and the closure also illustrates some hard truths about the state of the U.S. coal industry."

    https://www.triplepundit.com/2018/01/trouble-coal-country-370-mining-jobs-lost-one-blow/



    Western Pennsylvania coal mine to close, costing nearly 400 jobs

    http://www.witf.org/news/2018/01/western-pennsylvania-coal-mine-to-close-costing-nearly-400-jobs.php
     
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    Hard times in trump country


    Jamie Stewart voted for Donald Trump, but she thinks the president is a “jackass.” She doesn’t really love to talk about what he’s doing or why she voted for him.


    Poor and working-class voters are facing only growing uncertainty as their access to health care and public services comes under attack. Their taxes are about to get higher. Black and brown working-class and poor voters face those same threats, plus emboldened racism that has been enabled from the very top, while immigrant communities are being torn apart at even greater rates than before.


    https://theintercept.com/2017/12/16/hard-times-in-trump-country/
     
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    All of which proves coal is having a hard enough time without actively trying to kill it as Obama did. Trump took the government boot off coals neck and now they can sink or swim like any other industry in the free market
     
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    No one "actively" is trying to kill coal mining, josephwalker. Technology pushes the continuing loss of jobs and there is nothing Trump can do about it. It will morph or die.
     
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    Of for God's sake.. You have Obama on the brain. Get real, kiddo.

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    An absurd statement to say no one actively is trying to kill coal mining.

    You're trying to suggest that the actions of the Obama Administration didn't occur?

    Try again, because this one blew up right out of the barrel.
     
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    Once again you prove my point. Coal was having a hard enough time without Obama trying to destroy it further.

    "It’s an odd coincidence that the same day President Barack Obama unveils regulations limiting carbon dioxide emissions from power plants. a major coal company announces it is going bankrupt. In 2008, Obama said his energy policies would “bankrupt” anyone who wants to build a coal plant.

    “So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted,” Obama said during a 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle’s editorial board."
     
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    As much as I love my Appalachian homeland, it's beyond saving. It's decaying of fent and fascism and go are equally insidious
     
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    See, they invented these things that helped to automate the mining of coal and improve productivity with fewer people.

    Had a big impact on the number of people in the industry........

    Obama economically destroyed whole towns full of people.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/us-has-lost-191000-mining-jobs-september-2014

    http://www.sj-r.com/article/20160423/NEWS/160429761

    Bet that's awesome to some folks....
     
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    First off see post #7. After that realize that the push for an all electric car and even heavy truck fleet will require a huge growth in the electric grid and coal may soon see a resurgence to help fill that need.
     
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    Obama destroyed? Really? Would you prefer if Obama had passed a law against automation and subsidized the coal industry? Check your meds.
     
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    You are having trouble with this, obviously. What Obama or Trump did or did not do cannot prevent what is happening. To argue against that is silly Alt Right nonsense.

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    I think you are the one who needs to check dosage. Nothing you posted addresses what you attempted to sell in your post.

    The US has an estimated 1/4 of the worlds known reserves for coal. Energy is key, and technology has the ability to clean up the use if it.

    The envirowackjobs apparently don't care about that, and the jobs it could create. Rather, they want to export jobs to countries building solar and wind, so the under employed can shiver around a clean energy LED.
     
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    I only have trouble with the inherent dishonesty this graph is trying to sell.

    Continuous mining, and other technologies have brought down the size of the labor force needed to extract coal. Not demand for the energy. Well, that is until Obama decided to add another industry to the list the left has destroyed.

    Perhaps you are as gullible as others in thinking this graph means something else, but I've been willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    YOU already pointed to the fact that they mine more coal with fewer coal miners because of automation.. Use your head.. That means fewer coal mining jobs and Obama had NOTHING to do with that.

    Hell, even China and India are drastically cutting coal fired power plants.

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    Obama spent 8 yesrs trying to kill coal

    Trump cant reverse that in one year
     
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    Have you looked at the age of US coal fired power plants? LOLOL.. Most of them are older than Obama.. and no new ones were being built.. With all your critical thinking skills, do you have a clue WHY?
     
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    You must mean all those hundreds of thousands of charging stations needed to replace gas station pumps can't run on solar or wind because folks ain't got the time to wait in line that long, they'd have to put a charcoal burning galley in their vehicles to avoid starvation.

    Hey! Smokestack lighting!
     
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    • Flamebaiting (Rule 3)
    <Rule 3> Did Obama shut down the coal industry, or did he not?

    Simple question.
     
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    He's a hard luck guy. Hard luck to you if you live in Appalachia.
     
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    As long as obama was president there was no point in building new coal plants
     
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    When Clinton said while down in mining country that: “We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business," everybody in mining country knew that they were the new canaries in the mines, and that if she got elected they had breathed their last.

    Voting for Hillary would have been a stupid option for mining country. With Trump they have a chance instead of no chance at all.
     
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    Industries change. Market demands change. A coal fired power plant has a life of about 40 years and no new ones are being built because investors and businessmen see natural gas as cleaner and abundant. Should the president interfere in that? ( I think I know your answer, BTW)

    Can you imagine the angst and accusations that erupted when we went off whale oil and kerosene?

    What in Sam Hill is wrong with so called "conservatives?
     
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    Hillary proposed retraining for all those out of work coal miners.

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    And they didn't believe a word of it.
     

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