Mormans think Native americans were white at one time

People have been moving around the world in large numbers for the past 3,000 years. So when will people in the Western Hemisphere turn red like Indians? Why haven't whites in Africa turned black?

 

Have you seen how the desert people are dressed? eh and the Tuaregs are closer to black than to white , Arab immigration occur like 1500 years ago and genes take more time to adapt .
Skin pigmentation is dictated by various factors, for example during the ice age why Asians didn't turn white like Europeans? probably they took their vitamins from other sources other than the sun , it was something on their food or something their food used to eat . None can say how people will look in the future .

 

Siberia is absolutely huge. It spans the entire northern reaches of modern day Russia from west to east. The western reaches of Siberia people would be mainly of Caucasian decent, but the eastern reaches, where many of native Americans originate from are Asian.

 

It's all to do with the production of melanin in the skin and and natural selection. As humans moved out of hot Africa they were dark skinned to protect themselves from the hot sun. As they moved north into cooler climes, this melanin wasn't required. The problem was, dark skinned humans couldn't absorb the amount of UV needed to be converted into Vitamin D, therefore rickets was a problem. Slowly as humans migrated north out of Africa, they became paler.

Centuries ago when African slaves were brought to Europe and other cooler climes, rickets was a huge killer. Get rickets, which effects the bones, the slave is unable to work.

 

Many did "turn white", there is the entire scale from dark brown to chalk white to be found amongst Asians.

These antiquated race theories do not hold.

 

I already gave the name of the tribe all native Americans are related to . "Caucasian" is not a scientific term .
I think the difference is that eastern Siberia is a coastal area and vitamin D is abundant in fish fats .

I see you know the pigmentation basics , this is very rare !
Yes Negroes need like three times more sun exposure per day in areas like London or Amsterdam and probably pigmentation is the reason of high melanoma rate among white Australians , nature is a do (adapt) or die game
Europe is colder as you go north so in addition to less sunlight northern Europeans also have to cover most of their skin and this explains the difference between Scandinavians and Illyrians .

Yellow is not white unless you mean the Ainu or the Celtic tribe that moved into China , i don't know what you mean by "antiquated race theories" and the whole "race" thing has very little to do with genetics , would you call Andaman's Negritos "black race" even if they are the most genetically distant group to sub-Saharan Africans ?

 

This is true. Asians have the entire skin colour spectrum. Even in little Laos, skin colour varies greatly, as it does in Thailand.

 

"Yellow" - lol
Someone speaks who's never been to Asia.

 

I love anthropology, especially Asian anthropology.

The Ainu are a real mystery. Some anthropologists believe the Ainu are of Caucasian stock, but the jury is still out.

 

The melanoma rate among European Australians is mainly due to silly Aussies lying in the sun needing to get tanned. This is slowly changing as health professionals promote the dangers of skin cancer.

I don't know if you've been to Australia in the summer? The sun is absolutely fierce, even fiercer than tropical Asia.

 

I don't need to be in Asia since the Asia is coming here ...

Never been in Australia but i live in Greece , we do lay in the sun as well and the sun burns but we are adopted to it ( we have darker skin ) so melanoma levels are logical .

*i think we got wildly off-topic and we can move it into a anthropology /science/evolution threat




Those guys are from Patagonia

and this is an Aleutian little lady



They all live at the edges of the continent

This is a Mayan boy



And this is an Aymara ( Central Andean ) mother with her kid



Those people live in the tropical parts of the continent , i don't know if they were once white but despite their striking similarities with Asians and their very recent common ancestry they don't look at all the same

 

We spent some time in the TAR of western China working with Tibetans, especially with the Khampas. You could teleport many of them to South America, namely Bolivia and they wouldn't look out of place.

Also, the similarities between Tibetans and Hmong of northern Laos, Thailand and Vietnam are striking. This is especially true of their appearance, textiles and jewellery. But this is due to migration as it's believed the Hmong originated from what is today's eastern Tibet. Also both languages come from the Cino-Tibetan group of languages.

 

HA! now you are asking for it
Are you familiar with the amazing respiratory differences among people living in high altitudes ? Tibetans have evolved the opposite features from the Andeans chest architecture , heartbeat pace and all to deal with the same problem (low oxygen density).
Skin differences are skin deep

 

Good call. I could chat about anthropology and linguistics all night. We need to start a new thread

From what I've heard, with Tibetans it has something to do with their red blood cells. Either they are bigger or they have more of them. Dunno! I need to do some more research

 

No, they teach He went to North America after He was Resurected... not while He was "dead".

Actually, Mormons believe He came over and taught all Americans who'd decended from a group of Jews who'd made it to the Americas around 600 BC. Because they had Jewish heritage and were still holding onto Jewish beliefs, they needed to know that the Messiah had arrived.

Some of the Jews who'd made it to America started breeding with the natives that were already there, who were more swarthy than the Jews, and their kids tended to go for the native's animistic view of the world.

Old world Jewish culture had the same issues when Jews would breed with Caananites and Samarians etc.

You're talking about an old-time Mormon dogma which a lot of early converts held to because they didn't have as much knowlege as people do today. They didn't know how else to interpret some of what the Book of Mormon was saying.

Mormons interpret and re-interpret the Book of Mormon as a function of their level of knowlege and education just as much Christians in the rest of the world re-interpret the Bible.

He did. He said, "I have other flocks..."

There wasn't much more He could say because it would have meant trying to explain to them that the world was round and that there's another continent on the other side. The Disciples were the kind of people who thought the lake of Gallilee was a "Sea" and that the world fell off past the horizon of the Atlantic shores.

In any case, the concept of people from the old world (in this case Jews from one of the ten lost tribes) making it to North America is not such a radical concept. There's plenty of evidence that a lot more landings in the Americas by people from the old world happened before Columbus. Of course you'd know about the Vikings, and you probably know about the Golden Wind that blew a fleet of Chinese off course when they were sailing to invade Japan, whereupon they landed in the Pacific North West and set themselves up as a priestly class among the Haida, which is where Haida got some of their unique head-dresses and linguistic terms from, but there's evidence of other landings too.

In any case, the strongest scientific evidence Mormons have that some Jews made it to the new world are genetic studies of a group of Peruvians with a unique genotype found elsewhere only in Turkey. Turkey is one of the places where people from the ten lost tribes would have fled after the destruction of the original Israel.

 

to pasthea ::::: i am not being critical of your comment; you are basicaly right in what you are saying. however, you should read a few books about any subject, and original source books should be included; before you comment about it.

as for myself, i have talked to the mormon missionaries who ride around on bicycles and preach the mormon religion. i have read their own books and books by others; and sometimes when i read such comments as yours; i am afraid. you do not frighten me; the mormons frighten me.

vlad

 

There was no mention of other native people there was the extinct group that came over from right after the tower of babel

And these people the nephrites encountered and merged with

15 Behold, it came to pass that Mosiah discovered that the people of Zarahemla came out from Jerusalem at the time that Zedekiah, king of Judah, was carried away captive into Babylon.

 

Got a reference for that? The claims of European inhabitation of North America during the last ice age are widely disputed, but even those who make the claims still suggest that water craft were used.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis

 

I wish to hell they would stay in Utah and quit knocking on my effing door!!!! I have my own religion, thank you, and it suits me just fine!!!

 

Ah I see. 'walk' across is an exaggeration though, and he just said the atlantic was frozen, which it wasn't - only part of it was. Interesting link still, thanks.

 

not wanting them to knock i get but not all Mormons are from Utah

 

While its a very stupid belief, its no better or worse that some of those morons who believe that Jonah lived inside of a big fish, or many other idiotic things that people of differing religions believe.

 

It's just something I have heard before. And like I already said I don't know if it is true or not. I brought it up in hopes that someone would give me a yes or a no on it.

 

They may have been white at one time. They come from the areas around russia, and there are many white people in Russia.