Most American's supported Trump. The popular vote is wrong.

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  1. therooster

    therooster Banned

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    So what ! Why should anyone care ?
     
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    What? Why should anyone care for or over what? What are you talking about?
     
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    You sound like a victim. What rights have been taken from you?
     
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    That you didn't read.

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    Don't you hear me crying ? Popular vote ! Russia? It's just not fair.
     
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    And obviously you can't even answer what you want or how we can help ! So ? Are you melting ?
     
  6. Merwen

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    Are you a computer? You sound like Eliza.
     
  7. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump took 220 counties that Obama claimed in 2012. Pueblo County, Colorado has not gone for a GOP in 45 years and the registered Democratic voters outnumber Republicans there by more than 15 thousand votes. 41,880 to 25,225. Trump had more than 36 thousand votes there. More than Hillary. Michigan had not gone to a GOP since 1988.

    So Recap:

    Trump took over 2,000 counties
    Hillary took less than 500 counties

    Trump won 30 of the popular votes
    Hillary won only 20 mostly due to Latinos and some states she barely won

    Democratic strongholds fell everywhere. Trump claimed 220 Democratic counties. Some have not voted Republican in more than 40 years.

    Latino's and Los Angeles do not accurately reflect what most of America actually wanted or who they supported. Trump won the election in a landslide!
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if we also got rid of the Womens' vote, the Jewish vote, the Black vote, and the college-educated vote, Trump would have surely won!!!

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    i cant believe this is how the GOP thinks.

    truly bigoted.
     
  9. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You miss my whole point. Figures. There is many races in the united states. Hillary won the popular vote due to a single race of peoples. Latino Mexicans both legal and illegal. Without them she failed miserably. Add up every race of people in the country and see who each one voted for. Hillary only did good with Latino's. That's it. Without them she sucked! Most of them did not even care for her or the Democratic party. They were just voting against Trump. So clearly if you take out the anti Trump votes (the ones who did not like Hillary) then she also did bad with Latino's! The only places Hillary did better then Obama was big cities and again due to Latino's.

    What do you not understand about this? She did bad on every level and failed with everyone. Half of her voters did not even like her. The Democratic party sucked!

    Trump took 220 Democratic counties, more than 2,000 counties and 30 of the popular votes held in every state.

    Trump claimed 29% of the Latino vote and did better with women and blacks then Romney did. Trump had a lot of support from everyone. The 3 million extra votes received by Hillary only reflect Latino's and a few big cities. More than 50% of all Latino's live in California, New York and Texas. All states with big cities.

    If you take everyone else Trump won the support of most American's, The popular vote should not just reflect Latino's and Los Angeles.

    Edit: No I am not being bigoted. The popular vote should reflect more than just one single race of people in this country. I love Hispanics and have many of them as my friends at work. I am just making a point.
     
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    That was my exact thought when I started reading the OP. I guess only pure WASP Protestants are considered American.

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    The OP's point is essentially this:

    "If you randomly subtract Hillary voters, Trump won the popular vote! Omg!"

    Lol.
     
  11. Matthewthf

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    Again you fail to see the point I was trying to make. Please keep an open mind and follow along here. I never said Hillary voters do not matter.

    I was merely pointing out the 3 million extra votes only reflect Latino's and big cities. If you remove that from the numbers you will see Hillary failed miserably.

    Hillary only did better then Obama in big cities and only with Latino's. A lot of Latino's did not even like her and only voted against Trump.
    Trump took 220 democratic counties. Some have voted Democratically for over 40 years. Trump took over 2,000 counties. Hillary less than 500.
    Trump won 30 of the 20 popular votes and he did not even campaign in states like California.

    It is clear to see Trump won and Hillary failed on every level. The 3 million extra votes do a poor job at reflecting who most American's really supported. You can't win with just a single race of peoples which is pretty much all Hillary had. With out Latino's she sucked. How many of those Latino's voted illegally? Trump is the clear winner.
     
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    so you're saying Latino citizens aren't Americans?
     
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    According to who? Was it maybe the same people who told us he could never be the POTUS and "proved" it with their polls every single day?

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    At least 12 million of them aren't.
     
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    12 million Latino citizens aren't Americans?

    how the (*)(*)(*)(*) does that work???

    sounds like "Alternate Facts".

    LOL!!! :roflol:
     
  15. Matthewthf

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    I never said that. Reread my post. I am just making a point that Hillary failed on every level. Please don't try to make this into something it is not.
     
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    I also voted more against Trump than for Hillary.

    does that mean I am also "not an American"???

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    you have no evidence that even 100 Latino votes in California was done by illegal aliens.

    you really think illegal Latinos are stupid enough as to engage in voter fraud, knowing that exposes them to deportation?

    LOL!!!!! too funny.
     
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    "Most American's supported Trump. The popular vote is wrong." - according to Mathewthf in the OP. Well, there it is, a classic example of the age of Trump and his more "creative" supporters. Just make sh*t up and it's true, they'll just gaslight their way through life. Like their hero, the man-child currently disgracing the oval office, they've become pathological liars........
     
  18. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have one through this many times. A Harvard study shows illegals do vote. How quickly you forget the facts. I am only saying if you take away Latino votes then Hillary sucked on every level. Does that bother you?
     
  19. Ronstar

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    you have no evidence that even 100 illegal aliens voted in 2016.
     
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    I did see a whole lot of Mexican flags and Central American flags being waved yesterday at the anti peaceful transition of power and anti trump rally yesterday in Los Angeles. One has to wonder.

    1/3 of California's population weren't born in America. The vast majority of California's Latino population aren't third, fourth or fifth generation Americans of Mexico decent but were criminals who were awarded amnesty for braking our laws and under family reunification were able to legally bring their families into California. And they brought their politics and loyalty of their home country with them.

    FYI:
    When you are talking about awarding amnesty to 10 million illegal aliens you are actually talking about 40 million uneducated, unskilled new immigrants under family reunification.

    It's California who has led the way ignoring the rule of law for the past thirty years.

    It's California who's seriously advocating secession from the United States.

    Take California out of the equation, Trump wins the popular vote and also the electoral college.

    What is really an outrage, 1/3 of the Californians aren't represented by their elected officials. While non citizens in California get full representation by the elected Democrats.
     
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    Do you disagree with the fact that without the Latino vote Hillary failed on every level? Her relations with the American people are Abysmal just like the Democratic party.
     
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    Go argue with DHS and Pew research, they're the ones that say we have at least 12 million illegals in the country, with 50% of the number being Mexicans.

    Personally I think the number is small, but I have no proof it's larger than 12 million.
     
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    Oh, I got your point. But you failed to get mine, so let me state it clearly:

    What is your justification for the part I highlighted?

    That's like me claiming, "If we remove uneducated young white males from the electorate, Trump would have lost. Trump only won because of that group."

    Both Latinos and uneducated young white males are equally American.
     
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    This made me laugh so hard. Let's just count all Latinos as 2/3rds a person. Like they did for slavery back in the day.
     
  25. Nordic Democrat

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    I'm sorry, but you're a moron. You can't take away states/populations you don't like. Trump lost the popular vote, this is a fact.
     

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