Mother of Miscarried Child: ‘He Is Very Obviously Human, Not a Cluster of Cells’

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  1. gamewell45

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    Apparently it is working with abortion since those who don't believe in it are not having abortions.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    He took away her choice EXACTLY like Anti-Choicers want to do......a TERRIBLE thing to do....




    ...and for the fortieth time it IS only what the woman wants that matters...DUHHHHHHHHHHH, it IS all about CHOICE...and not YOUR choice :)








    What? Just more weird crap. Could you try constructing a sentence????
     
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    And he would have a black eye
     
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    Ya, adoption is a possibility... so? I think most people know that, why do you keep repeating it insanely as if you are the only person who knows this.....it's quite bizarre...
     
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    Until they need one ;)
     
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    "Progressives"=Communists. Sorry, but that dog don't hunt. And no, Liberalism is all about forced equality of outcome. Conservatism is about equality of opportunity.
     
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    Liberalism is all about forcing their twisted brand of "equality" on others. They think they know better than the great unwashed masses.
     
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    And once again, it is the woman's selfishness that kills the unborn child.
     
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    So what !


    WHERE is the law that says women must not be selfish ?


    WHERE ?

    Point it out.....


    AND show me the man who is totally UNSELFISH.....SHOW ME THE MAN.....where is he?

    Show me the person who has never done a selfish thing in their life.

    YA KNOW, doing what you want is inherently selfish and when you do what you selfishly want and have kids ...that's not only selfish but it involves actual real people in your selfishness....those kids weren't asked if they'd like to be born..



    Being selfish is simply doing what's best for oneself....THAT is all it is ....without selfishness humans wouldn't have survived.


    And women have every right to be as selfish as anyone else...


    Try THINKING instead of repeating trite meaningless crap Anti-Choice sites drool...
     
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    That’s if you want to go back to white men only...like the good old days. I want to progress and you want to regress
    Why do the uneducated always throw in “communism”When obviously they have no idea what it means.
     
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    Yep, you know us women ..The nerve of us not ready to raise another being years.
     
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    It is NOT yours, nor anybody else's place to determine who gets to live and who dies. Seriously, Hitler would be proud of you.
     
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    Again, self sacrifice is a concept completely foreign to the brain dead Left. They have zero concept of self sacrifice.
     
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    Precisely; half these clowns who toss around the word "communism" have absolutely no clue what a communist really is.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    So what !


    WHERE is the law that says women must not be selfish ?


    WHERE ?

    Point it out.....


    AND show me the man who is totally UNSELFISH.....SHOW ME THE MAN.....where is he?

    Show me the person who has never done a selfish thing in their life.

    YA KNOW, doing what you want is inherently selfish and when you do what you selfishly want and have kids ...that's not only selfish but it involves actual real people in your selfishness....those kids weren't asked if they'd like to be born..



    Being selfish is simply doing what's best for oneself....THAT is all it is ....without selfishness humans wouldn't have survived.


    And women have every right to be as selfish as anyone else...


    Try THINKING instead of repeating trite meaningless crap Anti-Choice sites drool...






    Oh, OK, I see you aren't in here for serious discussion or to learn anything.

    You seem to be here just to throw around silly bumper sticker insults....

    Do you actually think anyone is wounded or concerned by you insults?

    Do you really think that your insults will result in any changes to abortion laws?




    Ya, I know you can't address posts but maybe you'll actually read this one...



    ...and , insulting groups is against the rules.......so try to post something more intelligent and/or creative.




    I asked : ""WHERE is the law that says women must not be selfish ?

    WHERE ?"""



    ....and you have NOTHING :)


    We were discussing selfishness not self sacrifice....


    you must've had to change it when you saw you had no decent reply :)
     
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    Where? How about good old fashioned common sense? Up until the 1960s, women were the nurturers, the homemakers, the comforters. But today, unless a woman is a frigging amazon, according to the brain dead Left, she isn't a "real" woman. Stay at home moms are routinely ridiculed for this.
     
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    My goodness you have a warped view of history. Women have always had abortions.
    But I'm sure having women be the "nurturers, the homemakers, the comforters" was really comfy womfy for YOU....but maybe not for them (which you don't care about)






    Baloney! The left is the entity that thinks women should be allowed to be anything they'd like JUST LIKE MEN CAN BE.

    The regressive right wants women as slaves for their comfort.




    No, they're not.

    But the right ridicules any woman who doesn't fit into their little regressive stereotype of what they think women "should" be.


    They call them "frigging amazons"
     
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    It still doesn't make it right.









    Not always. For example, the FDNY had to lower its physical fitness requirements for female candidates.

    strawman
     
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    You are correct "Not always. For example, the FDNY had to lower its physical fitness requirements for female candidates.""
    ..is a strawman...


    ...and not being able to address an entire post shows you know you have no argument.
     
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    So you think people who hold to the traditional mores should just die off? That's sick. Especially considering Liberalism is based on Satanic lies.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Oh NO! Not "Satanic lies" !!! How frightening!!



    Now could you please have honesty and decency to show where I said ""people who hold to the traditional mores should just die off"" or admit you lied when you said I said that....
     
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    You're not lying about that. People of your ilk want us out of the way so you can twist and contort MY country into something I would hope Russia nukes with all its fury.
     
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    All you have is ranting and lies....



    Now could you please have honesty and decency to show where I said ""people who hold to the traditional mores should just die off"" or admit you lied when you said I said that....
     
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    Anti aborts use obfuscative language in order to deceive the ignorant.

    Even the term "Pro Life" is disingenuous. Do Anti Aborts not eat meat and/or plants?
    Hate to be a party pooper but ... Human existence requires that we kill life, in order to survive.

    Then when pressed they will use the term "Human life" it means "human life" but of course this is little better. Note the little trick of substituting the descriptive adjective form of the word "human" (human cell, human sperm, human feces, human life ... and so on) as opposed to the noun form (a human, a living human, human being)

    Since when do people give a hoot about a sperm (human life) or a human heart cell ?

    The reason they use such obfuscative language and technically incorrect terminology is because as soon as they use proper terminology "a human" their argument falls apart (at least in the early stages of pregnancy).

    Whine and cry as they may, there is no consensus among subject matter experts (Biology - specific areas, Bioethics, Philosophy - note that embryology is not included in this list) that a single human cell (zygote) is a human.

    From time to time we hear outright lies such as "Science has proven the zygote is a human" ... when not obfuscating with "Science has proven the zygote is human" :)

    The fact of the matter is that there are 5 different scientific perspectives on "when human life begins" - Metabolic, Genetic, Embryological, Neurological, Ecological.

    Only one puts the beginning at conception (genetic perspective) but, this perspective, while popular with the public, has fallen out of favor among scientists due to the "twinning" argument and that there is no exact moment of zygote formation.

    Regardless ... even if one were able to somehow show "human life begins here" ... this does not mean that a human exists at that point.

    The above "Science has proven" claim is abject nonsense.
     
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    If it’s not mine, then remove the 1/10of an ounce “baby”and dress it and feed it...after all it’s a baby to you.
    Actually I think hitler would be more proud of you because he also didn’t care about children that were already born.
     
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