I suppose you're right....thank's for the added insult, appreciate it. I suppose that was a great opportunity for you to do so...good for you to take advantage.
A) When will you guys put anough pressure on the fekkere in WASHINGTON - not to interfere in ANY OTHER country's affairs ? B) I doubt it'll cost US taxpayers a single red cent. rebuilding costs can easily be covered by Libya's oild reserves. C) Whoever you have as "President " - wont make an iota of difference. Democ-rats/Repli(*)(*)(*)(*)s - just two halves of the same gang of scoundrels , to fool the electorate in thinking they've got a "democracy" + living in the "Land of the Free" Applied psychology of mass control , lulling the electorate into standing hand on heart/ zombie like singing "Oh" Say can you see" . Jeeezuz . what a load of wallies. ...
Democracy alive ? Huh ? the pendulam have swung in the opposite direction regard racial discrimination . I suppose democracy is as alive as it is in The Democratic Republic of Congo , right ? IN South Africa - Christianity is - as its always been a convenient tool to sedate + control the masses. I doubt whether the ANC will follow Israel's example - its internal policies persecuting Christian Missionaries - ...
Do you disagree that the ruling party in South Africa, the ANC, was voted into power by democratic elections and if so on what basis or is the entire continent reduced to the Congo for you and you can't tell African countries apart? BTW South Africa tolerates all religions. http://www.southafrica.info/news/electionsresult-230511.htm IEC declares elections 'free and fair' Chris Bathembu Share | 23 May 2011 With a record voter turnout of more than 50 percent, the Independent Electoral Commission (IEC) on Saturday declared the 2011 municipal elections free and fair. IEC Chief Electoral Officer Pansy Tlakula said 97% of voters surveyed by the South African Human Research Council after the poll said they found the elections to have been free and fair. The voter turnout for the election was 57.6%, with spoilt ballots standing at 1.89%. More than 200 000 volunteers were deployed by the IEC across the country to help run the election, as 234 municipalities including eight metropolitan councils were up for grabs. Clear lead for ANC The results showed a clear lead by the African National Congress (ANC) with 62.0% of the votes and 5 633 council seats nationally, followed by the Democratic Alliance (DA) with 23.9% of the votes and 1 555 council seats. The ANC will control 198 councils including seven metropolitan areas. The DA won an outright majority in the hotly contested Cape Town metro clinching 61% of the votes and 135 of the 221 seats in the municipality. The ANC got 73 seats, while the Congress of the People (COPE) managed to win three. The National Freedom Party (NFP) managed to wrestle control of two local municipalities in KwaZulu-Natal, despite being formed three months ago. The Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) managed to secure five seats in its stronghold of KwaZulu-Natal. COPE did not win a single council, but they did however win about 236 seats in municipal councils across the country. IEC chairperson Brigalia Bam announced the official local government election results at the IEC's Results Operation Centre in Pretoria on Saturday, following Wednesday's poll. In terms of the law, the IEC has to announce the results within seven days after an election. 'Will of the people' Speaking after the announcement, President Jacob Zuma said South Africans "should be proud to have stayed on course since 1994" with regard to democratic norms and systems. "We can boldly declare that our democracy has matured in only 17 years ... the regular elections that we hold prove our commitment to the clause in the Freedom Charter that says no government can just claim authority unless it was based on the will of the people," Zuma said. He said the voter turnout of 57.6% had defied predictions of voter apathy among South Africans. Servants of the people Zuma went on to congratulate all political parties who have won seats in the elections, and thanked them for the peaceful nature they conducted themselves during the elections. Free political activity was an important barometer of political maturity and political tolerance in any society, he said. "From this moment on the lives of our new councillors will change. You have to accept that you are servants of the people and that you account to all the people in your wards. "You are accountable to people who voted for you and those who did not vote for you because councillors must serve all the South African people." Source: BuaNews
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If it is an American national strategic interest......I fully support and applaud projection of American power. LOL Come on.... do you really believe that? Europe uses that particular flavor of oil as the U.S. imports very little. Show us the cash. .........and it is still better than most other countries. What does that say about the rest of the world?
A) - even if its the cause of americans being the most hated nation by large section of the world ? Hmmm. B) I can see you've got very little understanding of international commodities trade and economics - i.e. relationship between price - supply + demand . In a nutshell here's an elementary lesson - Less oil for Europe means higher world oil prices - WORLDWIDE including America. Do you think you can get yr head around that ? cheers.
That seems odd, considering your avatar is of a president that was quite isolationist compared to most.
Financial Times.... By Anna Fifield in Washington Published: October 20 2011 16:00 | Last updated: October 20 2011 16:00 The demise of Libyan dictator Muammer Gaddafi will bolster President Barack Obamas reputation as a strong commander-in-chief, credentials that will make it difficult for Republican rivals to attack his national security bona fides as the 2012 election season gets under way........ http://www.ft.com/home/europe
You can't be serious. What country on this globe does not act in their own best interests above all others? LOL Some seem to think this is a popularity contest. I have a very clear understanding. With all due respect, here is an economic / oil lesson for you. Libya's oil is primarily sweet crude for use in European markets as it is low sulphur and in high demand in nations with increasingly stringent environmental regulations. It does put pressure market as it forces Europe to buy from other countries and more refined but it does not change the fact that the US imports very little. Meanwhile, because of the long delay in the Libyan regime change, oil producers have stepped up exploration in the Algeria, Nigeria, and the Caspian. Further.......what does your or my lesson have to do with compensating the American taxpayer for the ill advised Libyan adventure? LOL Can you get your head around that one?
Yep, the NATO-backed mob are already well into torture and extra-judicial killing. Time to erect the democracy beacons....er.....derricks.
I understand. But it was a different world wasn't it? But if it helps, my avatar on other forums is this guy.....he wouldn't fit here so I went with my backup Coolidge:
Coolidge and Teddy were basically opposites in many respects. Teddy was even referred to as "progressive", which seems to be a curse word around here.
Yep, he was the first Progressive-era president and part of the split between Progressive and Conservative Republicans. He was big on "Social Justice" and all that jazz. There aren't any progressives there anymore though.
Opposites? Not as much as one would think. I have studied and admire both having had great fun over the years challenging modern progressives with T.R's quotes and positions. For awhile there it was a popular progressive meme among the left as well as those on the far right. Another thread maybe.........
In music, it's a good word. In politics, it is typically a wrongly used term asserted in an arrogant attempt to frame leftist views as somehow "above" anyone disagreeing with them.
some victory ... yeah. Of course, like most of the wars the pretext Obama gave us for invading was false. The whole thing was about oil, like Afghanstan/Pakistan are about natural gas pipelines. "NATO has bombed Libya back to Stone Age’ “There is no water there, no medication, they don’t have even oxygen in the hospitals,” he told RT. “I have seen the situation in Sirte, I can assure you it is a disaster. It is a catastrophe. The international law or the international community came with the Resolution 1973, as they said, to protect civilians, but this is not happening at the moment." “The policy of targeted assassination is very much a part of US foreign policy,” Azikiwe told RT. “Gaddafi was also targeted for the last eight months for assassination…They put it out broadly with the international community that they want to, in fact, assassinate Gaddafi.” http://rt.com/news/nato-libya-machon-former-219/
Maybe some are just aware of the fact that the globe gets smaller by the day and think that countries acting in what they perceive to be their "best interests above all others" actually act as stupidly as people having a fistfight in an overcrowded small boat in a stormy sea.
Ah yes the good old new world order, no frontier ideology... Sorry to burst your bubble but it will never happen.
Oh yeah - how many sorties did NATO fly supposedly to get this one guy? Lets see if you can get it remotely close?
So... It's a war! What part of that 3 letter word don't you understand. Nato bombed part of it, The rebel blasted part of it and Qaddafi mercenary blasted some of it. Someday you'll grow up, get a job and forget about all that left wing, socialist, offended virgin act of your youth. In the mean time, the world, as it is, will go on.