Mueller investigators 'accidentally' wiped over a dozen phones before turning over to I.G.'s office

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  1. bx4

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    Seriously - do you (or anyone else) know the rules about returning phones in this organisation?

    Unless there was a rule or a special order that they NOT wipe them, they were perfectly justified in doing so. I would certainly wipe my company-issued phone before returning it to my employer unless they specifically told me I couldn’t.
     
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    Sad part about all this revelation... If Dems take the executive and Senate, it all goes away. Vote Orange!
     
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    Yeah, I can point you to when people all over the Bush White House were having their hard drives removed and destroyed after the House caught them doing much of their official business on private (RNC) servers.

    Trump isn’t so subtle. He just refuses to obey the law, and the Senate refuses to hold him to it.
     
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    Ok I'll play show me where Bush wiped computers that were to be turned over to an investigator? This has nothing to do with Trump we're talking about Mueller.
     
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    Millions of emails covering the time leading up to 9/11? Yeah, no one would be interested in those. :roll:
     
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    Because you say so? I'll ask again show me where Bush wiped computers that were to be turned over to prosecutors as was the claim. I could care less about lefty statements.
     
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    The Orange party? I like it. I'm not democrat or Republican I'm Orange.
     
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    “...department policies mandate that all electronic devices are cleared of sensitive or classified information prior to reuse or disposal.”

    Gotcha again. Rightwing surrogates truly believe their audience are idiots. A warmed-over conspiracy with a few details changed. Hey! It worked with Clinton, why not Mueller?

    Trump tweets and his minions try and back it up and Trump supporters are so amped-up they‘ll believe anything.
     
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    Why would you wipe/destroy evidence right before turning it over to the IG.. Do you know what the IG does?
     
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    The entire Bush email issue was discovered because there was an investigation and the Bush administration claimed they lost them.

    Every employee had the ability to delete emails that they never backed up. 22 million emails.
     
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    Sure it does. Nothing happens in a vacuum. When you get done with the obstruction of justice in and from the White House you can move on.
    Until then, you are being a complete hypocrite.
     
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    Seriously - do you know that when IG ask about turning phones over to them for investigation, they expect phones to be whipped clean and sanitized?

    Or, is it the other way around? :confusion:
     
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    It’s JW - so extremely biased.
    I can’t see anything to suggest that the wiping occurred “just before” handing over to the IG - or indeed after the IG requested the phones.

    Some of the wiping occurred because phones were reassigned. That would seem to be completely normal. And in fact negligent if it DIDN’T happen.

    Can you point to any law or internal rule or procedure that was violated?
     
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    There is no indication that the “wiping” occurred after the IG asked for the phones.
     
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    That would be the only valid excuse, but knowing Democrats, there’s a very little chance of that.
     
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    So there’s no actual evidence of wrongdoing, but you assume it must have happened?

    Ever heard of “confirmation bias”?
     
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    Were the phones turned over to the IG wiped or not.. They link to the actual documents.. The documents matter not the bias you claim JW has.

    I dont care what you see the discussion is them being wiped and them being turned over to the IG. If you want to have a back and forth of how long the time in between is then go for it but come forward with facts.

    Sure Obstruction of Justice see destroying evidence.

    Things like

    Sounds good to me! PerJennie - Please make sure sbe doesn't delete any textmessages offofher DOJ iPhone, i f any. Everything else should be saved on her H drive on JCON and in her email. This will be good for me as tbe RSO to go behind and see how that function works.


    Again... these phones were government property not personal..


    My company has a work email set up. If myself or my company ever was audited i assure you people could not just "wipe" email accounts right before they were turned over for audit.
     
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    There’s no indication of email accounts being wiped.

    From a quick review of the documents, it looks like
    - it was POLICY to re use and reissue assets like phones
    - it was POLICY to wipe the phones when they were turned in - so they could be reissued
    - at least some of the “wiping” was done by IT staff and not by the people who owned the phones

    No indication of any wrongdoing by anyone. On the contrary it looks like they were following the rules.

    The only way this is an issue is if people wiped phones after the IG asked for them. And there’s no indication that happened.

    But continue to be outraged.
     
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    But of course there’s an actual evidence of wrongdoing. The phones were turned over to IG sanitized. It’s a fact. Was there nothing to hide, they would not have been.

    What are Democrats hiding?
     
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    “The Democrats” didn’t do this.

    From what I have seen in the documents, people were following internal policy by returning phones when they were finished with them. Then IT wiped the phones and reissued them.

    I’ll bet it’s happening every day, in government and companies across America. Not sinister. Just following procedure.

    Unless someone can show that phones were wiped AFTER the IG asked for them, there’s really nothing to see here.

    But it won’t stop people perpetuating the conspiracy theory that something underhanded went on.

    If so, I guess we can expect charges from trump’s DOJ. Right?
     
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    Your desperate attempts to divert noted, do try to focus on the subject here.
     
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    Government property and government records let alone if there was even an inkling that they would be subject to investigation.
     
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    More desperate diversions and deflections.
     
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    Once the government information has been archived according the the Federal Records Act, NOT by the person turning them back in.
     
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    We don't know that timeframe yet and if there were already calls for an investigation.
     

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