Muslim barber refuses to cut hair of lesbian: Whose rights trump whose?

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  1. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    1. Mozilla made a business decision based on their internal philosophy. Eich being promoted not only caused bad PR, but also caused a lot of problems internally, as employees and board members quit. A business makes decisions based on it's bottom line- nothing more.
    2. Chick-Fil-A seems to be doing quite well.
    3. Asking someone to do their job and paying them for it is not persecution.
    4. Muslims are beheading Christians in the US? I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

    5, What is your idea of middle ground?
     
  2. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sharia Law in Canada - Tom O'Halloran
    tomohalloran.com/2012/05/07/sharia-law-in-canada
    Sharia Law is advancing in Canada at both provincial and local levels. The provincial governments of Canada for years have tacitly recognized Sharia law for Canada ...
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    That is someone's blog.

    There is not a single actual example in his blog of Canada 'recognizing Sharia Law'

    Not one.
     
  4. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Do not feed the trolls.
     
  5. SFJEFF

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    True I should know better.....
     
  6. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Muslim drivers at Cleveland airport refuse to drive cabs with Gay Games advertising
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    Posted on ‎4‎/‎18‎/‎2014‎ ‎2‎:‎26‎:‎47‎ ‎PM by Red in Blue PA

    Roughly 25 Muslim drivers dispatched to Cleveland Hopkins International Airport are refusing to drive cabs adorned with advertising for the region’s upcoming Gay Games, citing religious reasons.

    Two of the three companies operating at Ohio's largest airport were informed by the drivers — one-third of the airport’s total fleet — last week that they will no longer participate in the airport’s dedicated taxicab program. The companies, Ace and Yellow Taxi Cab, were told by the drivers that their decision was based on religious reasons, airport spokeswoman Jacqueline Mayo told FoxNews.com.


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    So a Muslim in Canada refuses to cut the hair of a lesbian and the Gay Progressive thugs have their noses out of joint. Today we have Muslim cab drivers in Cleveland refusing to drive cabs with gay game advertising. Hmm...., should they be forced to drive those cabs? Should Nuns be forced to pay for birth control pills? Should anyone be forced to be support something that is against their religious beliefs? According to the Progressive thug minority, it's their law and must be followed. Hmm...., perhaps those re-education (concentration) camps will soon be dotting the countryside?
     
  7. Defender of Freedom

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    Business has the right to deny service if it is for religious reasons. Let capitalism sort it out, and she can get her hair done somewhere else.

    Now that I have made that statement, I await the insults and backlash.
     
  8. Defender of Freedom

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    If he were an atheist who denied her service only on the basis that she was a lesbian, then I would agree with the woman. However, he has a religious right not to provide service because of his own beliefs. Sadly these cases are tough to decipher as who is to say that one right trumps another. We will not likely ever reach an agreement on this. I think the only solution is that she goes to another business to provide the service, and the mans business loses a costumer.
     
  9. Sandtrap

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    Were it a non-minority, they would be scalped and feathered. At least one would hope this barber's beard would be shaved off by the lesbian or superglued to a totem pole. Or perhaps he would be forced to make a beard donation to the lesbian as part of their settlement.
     
  10. Colonel K

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    There is no such right. He either supplies his secular service to all comers, or changes his business.
     
  11. goober

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    Nobody is forcing him to be a licensed barber in Toronto, where licensed barbers are required to serve the public, if they work in a shop that is open to the public.

    He can cut hair at his mosque, or move to a country where sharia is the law.
    Or he can clean toilets, or drive a cab....

    What I get annoyed at is people claiming a religious exemption from things that are part of the job they applied for.
    If you work as a cashier in a supermarket, you should expect to ring up pork sales, and beer and wine sales, if the market carries beer and wine.
    If you don't want to, then get a job at a fish mongers.
    If you don't want to bake cakes for gay weddings, don't open a bakery that serves the public.
    No one is being forced into doing anything that they have not previously consented to do.
     
  12. Colonel K

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    It's no different than the Christian bus driver who wouldn't drive a bus with an atheism advert on the side. Or the airline steward who couldn't possibly do her job without wearing a cross necklace outside her uniform blouse....
     
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    the refusal was gender based, not because she was competition.

    she should have tolerated his religion. he should have called his wife and had her do the snipping.

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    so if someone that really does have cooties comes in, he has to cut their hair? that's illegal in this state, we care about public health.
     
  14. Colonel K

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    I see that ignorance of cootie transmission modes features amongst the numerous culs de sac in your educational journey.
     
  15. Defender of Freedom

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    If it is against his religion and he is the owner of that business, then he has a right.
     
  16. Colonel K

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    No. Cutting hair is not against his religion. If it is, he needs to get out of the business.
     
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    I wonder why this story did not get the coverage that the bakery that didn't serve gays got. :wink:
     
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    Assuming that this would happen in the US, the customer has the right position. The barber is licensed by the state, and the state doesn't license discrimination. His religion doesn't trump that. A church can discriminate and they don't pay taxes. But he's not a church, and he does pay taxes, so he's not exempt from anti-discrimination laws. If the barber refuses, then he probably loses his license. However if I were to advise the gay customer, I'd say choose a different barber. He may have to cut your hair, but I doubt that you'll like the way it turns out.
     
  20. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may be correct. There have been several things similar that have occurred in the U.S., one of which was related to Gay Games advertised on Taxi-cabs.
     
  21. Adagio

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    :roflol: Gay Games?? Holy sht...I didn't know there was such a thing. I have a feeling I don't want to know too much either. I don't think that porn is something that you can advertise anywhere other than the internet. I can only imagine that any game that would classify itself is "gay" would be a porno site. What kind of a game is designed for gays? What kind of content would it have that makes the game "gay"? I don't know, man. If it's porn, then it has no business being advertised on a taxi or any other place. A Taxi is for every one, and shouldn't be used to promote some activity of a particular group.
     
  22. longknife

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    I can see this happening here in Vegas as we now have so many Somali and Ethiopian cabbies.
     
  23. mikezila

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    srsly, dude. any lice is a no go at barber shops in the civilized world.
     
  24. MegadethFan

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    Hilarious in so many ways. Well this is another example of the old private v public dichotomy. Ultimately I can't see why, generally, store owners shouldn't have the right to discriminate.
     

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