Muslim migration vs Jewish migration to Israel

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  1. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    So, apparently many Westerners are upset about tons of Muslims and Easterners migrating to Europe. Interestingly, many of those who are upset are strong supporters of the state of Israel, along with the whole Jewish right to return.

    Ironically, the reasons for Jewish immigration to Palestine are somewhat the same for eastern migration to Europe: Europe itself.

    Europe didn't care about waves of Jews immigrating (or invading) into Palestine, so why should anyone care about the migration problem in Europe today?

    We all reap what we sow, after all.
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Israel is the homeland of the Jews. Europe is not the homeland of the Turks, Pashtuns, and Arabs.
     
  3. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    But that's not why Jews immigrated (invaded?) en mass to Palestine. They migrated because of European anti-semitism, the same way Easterners are migrating because of Western destabilization in the East.

    Thus, Europe can go (*)(*)(*)(*) itself.
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    It is the main reason Zionism was created, to reestablish the Jewish nation. There was no exodus of Arabs from Europe. The two cases are not linked no matter how much you try to link them. Arabs are running from Arab nations, they are not some prosecuted minority.

    But I agree Europe can go (*)(*)(*)(*) itself.
     
  5. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    How are they not linked? Jews left Europe because of European actions, and Arabs are leaving the ME because of European/Western actions.
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    In the run up to the war many countries including the US and the UK barred immigration of European Jews.. Some immigrant ships were turned back.
     
  7. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    these "refugee" Arabs are leaving the ME because they are cowards, and because they cant stand the (*)(*)(*)(*) countries they themselves are responsible for setting up. Jews left Europe because they were a prosecuted tiny minority, going back to their homeland. Can you honestly not see the difference.

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    So what?
     
  8. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    Except that Europe is the one that created those countries and destabilized that region in the first place. Why should they fight for a country that was artificially created by a foreign power?
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    Families always flee a war zone.. Jews, who were able, left Germany, Austria, France etc........
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    True, perhaps they should fight for a country of their own liking?
     
  11. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    You must be crazy if you think the West (along with Israel) wants a powerful Islamic world.
     
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    So we can stab them and shoot rockets at them??


    Cool!!!!!!
     
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    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Who would! You guys are insane and even your population thinks so as most Muslim countries people's are bailing.

    Oh wait let me guess, I'll put the quote for ukj

    "The US is evil and the corporations they do corporationy things, in their corporation buildings with other corporations .... and they make money"
     
  14. Goomba

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    That's not it. The West does not want a powerful Islamic world because Islam is the only system that stands a chance against the Western-Israeli alliance. Hence the West's nefarious actions in the Middle East and beyond.
     
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    Utter Nonsense. Syria is destablised by the conflict between sunnis and shiaas. noting to do with the west. Pakistanis and bangladeshis are migrating because their countries are run by incompetents and they want handouts.

    We in Europe are slamming the door shut. We don't want any more trouble making muslims. we need to do more to help Holy Israel too
     
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    Let's be completely honest. Jews leaving Europe for Israel was good riddance for Europeans. Everyone knows it, Europeans knew/know it and certainly Jews know it as well. That's perhaps one of the reasons why/how they hold Europeans by their balls.
     
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    Hang about Goomba, there are plenty of Europeans who are mad as hell about what happened and continues to happen in Palestine.

    And there are also plenty of Europeans who want to help genuine refugees from Syria.
     
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    Well....let's just take a look at the two situations side by side:

    Israeli immigration~
    A country "Inviting" people to come in, and these are people who do not have a history of extreme violence that agree with and accept the values and laws of the host country.

    Muslim Immigration~ Many countries agreeing to let people immigrate out of pressure and compassion for people with a history of violence who disagree with the values and laws in place and expect the hosts to revise them for the refuge.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Immigration into Palestine. A group of people with a desire to establish a country that had not existed for 2000 years. Uninterested in the rights of the people already there and prepared to use violence, terrorism and war to establish supremacist state.

    Immigration to Europe. Many countries agreeing to let people immigrate out of pressure and compassion for people who the large majority of have a record of peaceful coexistence already. A small minority prepared to use violence and terrorism to try to establish a Muslim state which they have no chance of achieving

    There are some similarities but Muslims pose nowhere near the threat to any European nation that Zionists did to Palestinian people..
     
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    If the refugees are cowards, what are the people who are afraid of the refugees?


    on another note, something that some of you might find of interest
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/world/israel-holocaust-survivors-help-refugees/
     
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    That's not the whole picture... Israel has been demanding that Syria be isolated and destabilized since 1996.. Then the PNAC in the US picked it up in 1998 and Bush named Syria part of the Axis of Evil in 2002.

    Once these things are set in motion, its hard to stop them or anticipate the consequences from invading Iraq and the birth of ISIS in 2004.

    Add to that.. severe drought in Syria and Syria's long history of military coups and you have the Arab Spring in Libya, Egypt and now Syria as Iran becomes ascendant and threatens Yemen and Lebanon.

    Its a hornet's nest alright.. and the US has done their share to poke the hornet's nest.

    Now even Russia is involved and those Hezbollah sympathizers are being expelled from several countries.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah...is we were comparing Palestine to Europe you would have a point, but we are not as there really is no comparison.
     
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    I know. The OP is rather aimed at those hypocrites.
     
  25. Goomba

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    There was no Jewish "country" prior to vast immigration to Palestine. There never would have been if not for the extreme violence of the Jew's hosts.

    More like out of guilt due to their destabilizing actions in the region.
     

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