My 2014 CFB Top 10 - Week 7

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    why do you keep adding LSU like they are a quality team.... lol. #secbias


    That's the point... playing a schedule full of over-rated teams doesn't prove you're tough. It was the same argument that the SEC made last year when FSU played AU....


    we see how that went.



    I remember Brent musberger announcing that the iron bowl was going to probably determine everything last year...... FSU and OU proved differently....
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A bad SEC team is still a beast in an out of conference game. Ask Vanderbilt :)
     
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    uh huh

    21-20 over out of conference Charleston Southern.... lol
    Massachusetts missing a fieldgoal to lose... . super tough... lol

    but temple didn't think they were tought, and old dominion better watch out
     
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    The SEC West is 26-0 vs all non-SEC West teams in the 2014 season. The SEC East is almost as weak as is the ACC.

    FSU looks pretty dominant when the play Bethune-Cookman though.*



    * So long as Winston isn't suspended.
     
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    our out of conference is Notre Dame #5
    SEC west's premier opponent out of conference is unranked Wisonsin


    FSU Wins
     
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    the #blamejameis tweets are friggin hilaious
     
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    Look, I get that SEC hype is crazy. But when you look at the Champs in recent history, you can't deny it's a powerhouse. If you think the SEC is overrated, then why are so many teams ranked? Why are we (I went to Ole Miss) winning, not losing? There's a reason for the hype...because it's warranted.
     
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    no, I can't deny Bama was a powerhouse... the rest of the SEC, though... is hit or miss, year in or year out. There were a few years there were 3, even 4 really good teams.... and any given year, they may be the toughest conference....

    Last year.... who did ya'll have?

    AU and Bama were elite level.... granted.... South Carolina.... they were decent but def not elite. the rest of them?

    LSU - sucked (and pulling one upset on the eventual runner-ups does not mean you are elite.
    UF - lol
    Vandy - one of the better teams in the east last year
    Mizzou - imported and ran roughstock on the sec "elite" teams in the east
    UT - they did have a tough schedule, but they lost them all, they are laughable
    Texas A+M - 4 losses


    This year.... there are 4 teams viaing for elite status.... Bama, AU, and the Mississippis.... but 2 of them will collapse.... and I think it's the Mississippi's, and Bama is still very sketchy


    I'm not even saying the ACC is better, all I'm saying is just because you beat LSU, doesn't mean you are elite

    just because you beat South Carolina... does not mean you are elite (texas a+m) pretty funny how quick they dropped out of the elite level and heisman talks...
     
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    Lol! Dude, you are flat out lying. Bama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, South Carolina all have been in the top 25, made major bowl games, even won national championships (Bama, LSU, Florida) all in the past 8 years!!!! Bama had 3! lol
     
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    Also, your argument about texas AM and Alabama is incorrect. Just because they lost to awesome teams like Ole Miss and Ms. State, doesn't make them bad. It's just that they played better teams, who are even more elite. FSU would lose to Ole Miss, Ms State, Auburn, Alabama, T.A.M, Georgia, and heck, maybe even Florida, seeing as though they couldn't get past NC state without a 2 minute drill.
     
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    the verdict is still out about Ms State and Ole Miss. are they really a powerhouse? or are they like LSU last year and pulled off an upset and are about to implode.


    aTm was only #6 because they thumped #9 SC, who was sold to us as one of the elite teams....


    so it's a tangled web of beating an overated team then losing to a team that considers you an elite team, when you aren't..... a vicious cycle that keeps all SEC teams in the top 10.....


    but when LSU beats Ole Miss.... LSU will be right back into the top 15, allowing Bama to look great when they beat LSU .....
     
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    Bama is good.... FL had a losing season last year.... but when bama beats them handedly, people say it's a better win than FSU beating OSU

    UF loves to hold onto that title won 6 years ago... but they've had a couple 7-6 seasons, a 4-8, and one decent season since.
    LSU has had one good season since their last title

    South Car is only a top 10 team every year (not this year) but that's not elite


    Year in year out, the SEC on has 2 elite level teams at any one season..... Bama and a rotating team (au, UF, LSU etc)

    but year in year out, the SEC claims Bama and all the teams that had decent one year or 2 year success ALL as still being elite.
     
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    Your argument would hold water IF it weren't SEC teams in the Championship every single year.
     
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    just bama... or au.... the rest of the conference either relies on one of those two teams to win it all for them, or they rest on the laurals they had when they used to be good.

    How many sub 10 win seasons will it take for you to admit that LSU is not elite? They were in 11... but they are either really good, or really just average

    Last year... the only contenders they had were AU and Bama.... SC, UF, LSU, Mizzou, GA, aTm..... were NOT elite.... sc and Mizzou were decent.... the rest of them were bad, and that doesn't even begin to discuss the UT's, ole miss', Ms States last year.

    They were no stronger past their top than any other conference past their top 2
     
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    No, your first sentence is wrong again. It was recently auburn, Then Bama, for a few years, then Florida and LSU went back and forth.
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    There is no argument against the SEC being the most dominant over the past decade. National Championships in the past 11 years: 8 from SEC teams.
     
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    truth be told, without the state of alabama over the prior 4 years, the SEC was nothing.


    LSU was good one year that AU was down.... so again, it's not that they don't have good teams, but you can't count AU as a reason the SEC is dominant year after year, when they win the title one year, then lose every SEC game another year, then win the SEC the next.


    you can't count LSU every year because they win the SEC (and lose to Bama) when every other year they aren't in the title hunt, they are 3 or 4 loss seasons.

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    the two most consistent teams in the SEC are Bama, who are looking for titles every year

    and South Carolina... who are decent, at best, year in and year out..... (and they've lost that this year)
     
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    Yea but in the argument of the most dominant conference over the past decade, you have to go with the one who's won over 72% of the championships...just sayin'
     
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    you had the best team each year over the decade....


    but Bama sucked when UF or LSU was winning
    UF sucked when Bama ran it
    AU sucked when AU won it or competed...


    You are confusing having the best team any particular year with toughest conference. I'm saying, minus the top 2 teams.... the sec is just like any other conference

    Each year, you have 12 average teams bragging about how good the top 2 are in the SEC like Bama being in the conference makes up for GA losing to Vandy

    was the ACC the strongest last year because FSU was the best?

    Was the Pac-12 worth a damn in 2003-2005 when USC won 3 straight?

    or was it that they had a good team in an average conference.
     
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    the only thing I can say about the SEC is they spread the wealth.... more teams have the POTENTIAL to be good at any given time.... but not all of them are at the SAME time.

    They've had more teams win it from the conference... but unless you're that team... it doesn't matter.


    I truly believe it's not "sec football" that wins, I just believe the best football talent is located in the south eastern part of the US. So, minus the FSU's, the Miami's, GT, really, there aren't any teams not in the SEC that are located in the southeastern part of the country.


    But FSU has proven they can be good and win titles without being in the SEC.
     
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    I get your point, I really do. I'm kinda giving you a hard time :) We SEC folk are stubborn.
     
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