My opinion of "end times"

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  1. Swensson

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    Well, if we can't tell the correct ones from the incorrect ones, what good are they?
     
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    You CAN tell the correct ones from the incorrect ones, but polling people in a place like this won't help you. You have to put some more effort into it, that is, if you really want to know.
     
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    What does one thing have to do with the other? We know people like you are openly hostile to us if for no other reason than we exist. Oh, I know, you guys have all kinds of excuses for it but it all comes down to one thing, and it validates Christ's point.

    So if he's right about that why can't he be right about other things?
     
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    Everyone will receive an eternal life. The after life is somewhat based on the rewards system also. We may not receive what we deserve here but we will receive what we deserve there.

    Whether or not a person believes in Buddha or Jesus or Shiva. Arguing is also used in the reward system. Bad needless arguments are worthless and sometimes more detrimental in the rewards system.

    A person could say, 'because the evangelist didn't know when to leave but continued in speaking, I committed suicide because the evangelist made me feel horrible about myself and I will never put any belief on the God of that evangelist because of how I was left feeling and needed to deal with and suffer through'.

    And so, that evangelist might receive a bad mark .. more or less

    Another example could be: 'because the street evangelist continued to bring food to me and my homeless friends, the street evangelist made me and the others feel less loved of GOD and so we decided to have nothing to do with GOD and now we joined the anti God movement.' This would also put a smear on the street evangelist list of rewards earned.

    The one who committed suicide and the ones who left any possible life with GOD would be considered to have been lost due to the 'wrongness' of the evangelist and street evangelist. Their blood and defiance towards GOD will be requitted upon the evangelists.

    Another example: 'the street evangelist used the name of Jesus and now I can't continue schooling and dropped out. My parents kicked me out of the house. But the Government's policies on no religious talk in any place is helping me get back to normal. Also, my parents have joined the coalition of banning all Jesus speaking. The evangelist's use of the name of Jesus has torn apart every good thing we had'!

    Another example: ' because the evangelist used the name of Jesus, I bought a semi automatic and lost my self control. Now I'm a wanted person by the Law'.

    Another one: 'because only Jesus or Muhammad is spoken of, I feel as if my self control is being stripped. I'm a Hindu and follow the Hindu faith, but with all this Jesus and Muhammad talk and none about Shiva, I'm going to buy some arsenal to make my point'.

    Another one: 'my rights to be a practicing pagan is being infringed upon. They cannot tell me how my religious worship can or cannot be. We offer blood sacrifices in our faith. They can't tell me I cannot worship as I desire'.

    And just like how the name of Jesus caused my life to be taken and the others to be on the anti GOD movement and how it made him to drop out of school and caused the parents to be anti Jesus name and just how the name of Jesus caused me to buy a semi automatic and her to get arsenal, the pagans, if stripped of their religious rights, might do the same towards policies which prohibit their right in worshipping freely.

    'I worship Bacchus. It is not wrong to be overly intoxicated in public. You cannot strip my right. It is also wrong to infringe upon my domestic way of living with the dwellers of my home'.

    On and on and on and on to each and every aspect of life.

    Sex
    War
    Food
    Drink
    Family
    Travel
    Monies


    On and on... polytheistic..

    Eventually there might be a king deity put on the highest plateau, among the others on there.

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    NOTHING BUT ATTITUDE, ZEUS.. NOTHING BUT ATTITUDE.

    6 feet 4 inches, 285 lbs of nothing but attitude.

    The Earth and the World, which belong unto THE LORD, does not need attitude; it needs HIM.

    Although HE IS PERFECT, people are unsure about HIS MERCY.

    I hate saying this, but HIS MERCY has led many to fall by the wasteside. Truth is better than flattery.

    Proverbs 28:23 "He that rebuketh a man, afterwards, shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue."

    Proverbs 29:5 "A man that flattereth his neighbour spreadeth a net for his feet."


    Why should I seek to spread a net for THE LORD's feet?

    Proverbs 12:22 "Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight."
     
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    Question: what is the difference between angels and Holy Angels?

    Do you serve angels or Holy Angels?

    Holy Angels say to not worship them or bow down to them but to GOD Alone.

    angels say nothing of this sort or nothing to this sort.

    Would Michael the arc angel receive honor of men to himself?

    Or would he just not be around but still get the job done?

    Some people are just getting WAY too high on some drug induced psychosis.

    How do you think the iPhone is so popular? Even among the non users of the phones or drugs? Mass frenzy.

    Losing and letting go of self thought for the mass frenzy. This is also a choice that can be made.

    It happens in politics as well.

    Do you know what was becoming a mass frenzy in the year 2016? Public shootings.

    308 School Shootings In America Since 2013
    www.everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/

    52 weeks in 1 year.

    The year 2018 - the year 2013 = 5 years.

    52 shootings per year, or, around 1 shooting per week, for 5.9 years, is 5.9 x 52 = 306.8 total shootings.

    How many years is 308 weeks?

    5.9230769231 years.

    Since the year 2013, there has been around, an equivalence to, 1 school shooting per week.

    Mass frenzy.

    1 (for) every 7 days.

    Does this have anything to do with 1 day of rest as told in The Holy Bible? Was The Day of Rest given to the Gentiles? Was The weekly Sabbath handed over into Gentile nations?

    Acts 15:
    "22Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren: 23And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: 24Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye mustbe circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no suchcommandment: 25It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 28For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well."


    Antioch was/is in a Gentile land, or nation. Syria is the same Syria as today.

    Antioch is actually a city in Syria and the first place that the word Christian was used to describe Christ's followers.

    Acts 11:26
    "And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."

    Antioch in Syria.--In 301 BC, shortly after the battle of Ipsus, which made him master of Syria, Seleucus Nicator rounded the city of Antioch, naming it after his father Antiochus. Guided, it was said, by the flight of an eagle, he fixed its site on the left bank of the Orontes (the El-`Asi) about 15 miles from the sea. He also rounded and fortified Seleucia to be the port of his new capital.
    www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/antioch-in-syria.html



    Once again, things don't line up..

    The city was founded c.300 BC by Seleucus I, king of Syria, and named for his father Antiochus, a Macedonian general. Situated at the crossing of north-south and east-west trade routes, the city soon became a rich commercial center. Antioch was occupied by Pompey in 64 BC and quickly became an important Roman military, commercial, and cultural center.

    www.encyclopedia.com/history/asia-and-africa/ancient-history-middle-east/antioch


    If this is truer than not, Syria would be speaking a romance language and not arabic.
     
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    Syrians (Arabic: سوريون‎), also known as the Syrian people (Arabic: الشعب السوري‎ ALA-LC: al-sha‘ab al-Sūrī; Syriac: ܣܘܪܝܝܢ‎) are the inhabitants of Syria, who share a common LevantineSemitic ancestry. The cultural and linguistic heritage of the Syrian people is a blend of both indigenous elements and the foreign cultures that have come to rule the land and its people over the course of thousands of years.
    The dominant racial group is the Syrian descendants of the old indigenous peoples who mixed with Arabs and identify themselves as such in addition to ethnic Aramean.

    The name "Syrians" was employed by the Greeks and Romans to denote the inhabitants of Syria; however, they called themselves Arameans and Assyrians. The ethnic designation "Syrian" is derived from the word "Assyrian" and appeared in the Hellenistic and Roman periods. Some argue that the discovery of the Çineköy inscription in 2000 seems to support the theory that the term Syria derives from Assyria.

    Starting from the 2nd century BC onwards, ancient writers referred to the Seleucid ruler as the King of Syria or King of the Syrians.[18] The Seleucids designated the districts of Seleucis and Coele-Syria explicitly as Syria and ruled the Syrians as indigenous populations residing west of the Euphrates (Aramea) in contrast to Assyrians who had their native homeland in Mesopotamia east of the Euphrates.

    www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians

    The Seleucid Empire (/sɪˈljuːsɪd/;[6] Ancient Greek: Βασιλεία τῶν Σελευκιδῶν, Basileía tōn Seleukidōn) was a Hellenistic state ruled by the Seleucid dynasty, which existed from 312 BC to 63 BC; Seleucus I Nicator founded it following the division of the Macedonian empirevastly expanded by Alexander the Great.
    www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seleucid_Empire
     
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    The history of Turkey, understood as the history of the region now forming the territory of the Republic of Turkey, includes the history of both Anatolia (the Asian part of Turkey) and Eastern Thrace (the European part of Turkey)
    www.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Turkey


    Ancient Galatia (/ɡəˈleɪʃə/; Ancient Greek: Γαλατία, Galatía) was an area in the highlands of central Anatolia (Ankara, Çorum, Yozgat Province) in modern Turkey.

    Acts 16:
    "11Therefore loosing from Troas, we came with a straight course to Samothracia, and the next day to Neapolis; 12And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days."


    Çorum, and Çineköy have similar alphabet letters.

    Ancient Galatia (/ɡəˈleɪʃə/; Ancient Greek: Γαλατία, Galatía) was an area in the highlands of central Anatolia (Ankara, Çorum, Yozgat Province) in modern Turkey.

    The ethnic designation "Syrian" is derived from the word "Assyrian" and appeared in the Hellenistic and Roman periods. Some argue that the discovery of the Çineköy inscription in 2000 seems to support the theory that the term Syria derives from Assyria.


    Is Çorum and Çineköy even Arabic?
     
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    So, for me, being a rather simple fellow, either JC was wrong, and yet how can that be if he was the son of god, all knowing, and so on, or what he said had nothing to do with the end of the physical world. Can what he said be interpreted in another fashion, perhaps a mystical fashion?

    Was he speaking of matters of the spirit, matters of consciousness? Using other literary instruments? Well, we know he indeed used those kind of instruments.

    Since the rise of civilization one thing has been a hard fact. Civilizations rise and they fall, some of them in great destruction, suffering, violence and many deaths. It is our history as a species and it was also our history at the time of christ. It is surely a very ancient archetype, given it repeats and repeats, and is a basic reality of humanity, given enough time.

    I always thought Revelations was written as a way to push forward what some people may have thought christ meant, as seen in Matthew...when that generation passed away and there wasn't a Reckoning. I also am very aware that Revelations was highly debated as to whether to include it, so it was suspect to some of those early founding minds. Yet if it had been left out, as I think it should have been, that would have changed what was to become christian beliefs. And understand this, so much of Revelation is involved in most christian beliefs, especially the Protestant Evangelicals and fundamentalists.

    I also thought that the author of Revelations wanted a prophetic book for christians, emulating the prophetic books and prophets of the OT. A jewish thing, just as the blood sacrifice of christians was borrowed from the jews, that idea of cleansing blood...a blood cult.

    And yet when I read what christ taught, he was clearly contradicting many of the traditional jewish beliefs, those beliefs added by the mind of man. Which were wrong, off the mark.
     
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    The various subgroups of the Indo-European language family include ten major branches, listed below in alphabetical order

    In addition to the classical ten branches listed above, several extinct and little-known languages and language-groups have existed:

    • Illyrian: possibly related to Albanian, Messapian, or both
    • Venetic: shares several similarities with Latin and the Italic languages, but also has some affinities with other IE languages, especially Germanic and Celtic.[23][24]
    • Liburnian: doubtful affiliation, features shared with Venetic, Illyrian, and Indo-Hittite, significant transition of the Pre-Indo-European elements
    • Messapian: not conclusively deciphered
    • Phrygian: language of the ancient Phrygians
    • Paionian: extinct language once spoken north of Macedon
    • Thracian: possibly including Dacian
    • Dacian: possibly very close to Thracian
    • Ancient Macedonian: proposed relationship to Greek.
    • Ligurian – possibly close to or part of Celtic.[25]
    • Sicel: an ancient language spoken by the Sicels (Greek Sikeloi, Latin Siculi), one of the three indigenous (i.e. pre-Greek and pre-Punic) tribes of Sicily. Proposed relationship to Latin or proto-Illyrian (Pre-Indo-European) at an earlier stage.[26]
    • Lusitanian: possibly related to (or part of) Celtic, Ligurian, or Italic
    • Cimmerian: possibly Iranic, Thracian, or Celtic
    www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages

    So basically, Turkey and Syria should be in the indoeuropean language group, if this is somewhat true.

    Arabic is a member of the Afro-Asiatic group of languages.

    http://linguistics.byu.edu/classes/Ling450ch/reports/arabic.html

    In my estimation, Turkey and Syria would be more from the line of Japheth than from the lines of Ham or Shem.

    But depending. Since Ham's son Canaan received the curse from his grandfather, Noah, could the language spoken between them have been severed? Shem and Japheth would have remained in the same language group whereas Ham and his descendants might have been separated from their family.

    So there's indo European, which both Shem and Japheth, may have remained in and there's afro Asiatic which would have been the 'separated' language to the family.

    If this were to be true, I'm wondering why it is that the afro Asian language speakers are the less 'std'-d.

    English is also in the Indo-European group.

    English supposedly is at 3rd for most spoken language in the world, with Spanish and Chinese being the top 2.

    www.babbel.com/en/magazine/the-10-most-spoken-languages-in-the-world/

    But the earliest Indo-European languages are those spoken the the European part of the world, as posted above.
     
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    English would fall in this category:

    So at number 3 at most spoken language in the world, the Germanic sub group of the Indo-European languages, would take the title.

    So strange how English popularised German, seeing that WWII is not too highly spoken of.

    And strange how 'the curse' of Noah produced less std infected speakers.

    Why has std, regardless of sexual orientation, and LGBTreceived similar disparaging feelings when they are addressed?

    When the AIDS virus was first publicised in the late 80s, it was in association to non established sexual practices. 'A NEW sexual disease was now needing attention'. For decades previous, there was no AIDS. So what was this new infection about?

    First it had something to do with human to animal contact, then it had something to do with the sub groups of the sexually active.

    Now it has lost the face value of the life long potential and is becoming one among the others such as untreatable gonorreha. People are becoming accustomed to mediocre or less.

    With an opioid epidemic, prescription even, mediocre is all one can expect from an opioid addicted person.

    Pain killers, which are opioid based, slowly inebriates metabolism and cognitive skills to a dull.

    This is also another form of drunkenness. Addiction to opioids is similar to being addicted to alcohol.

    I never heard of an 'alcoholic' youth until only recently.

    Hired on with potential growth earnings? Strange...

    I've seen upper management personnel drunk during lunch.

    I think a majority prefers gin over whiskey. It doesn't leave as much of a scent on the breath.

    Oh the women who encourage such things... and the women that has disdain towards those that speak against such things..

    The men rarely oppose...but the women... they rally.

    Every male protester that was ever in a protest or rally that had violence involved, either in acts or speech or demeanor, all had a female at his side or in his support from elsewhere. If not their own woman, the women to the other gents would provide the same steam.

    Do you truly believe Is.il members are chaste males who have no women to their desire satisfaction?

    Who's going to clean up after them and cook for them?

    Ever seen a single man's living arrangement who didn't have GOD in their lives? Good joys using their bathrooms. Last time it was cleaned and swept might have been over a year, for the conscientious.

    Do you think these males do their laundry once a week or twice a month?

    Some single males, without a relationship with GOD, have been known to use their pet female dogs for release.

    And the general public is supposed to be fine with them running companies?

    Frustrations. Who to take out their frustrations on when no one is around except miss canine?

    Live in girlfriends? That's what I was talking about. The women behind the men, in rallies, protests, every violent thing. Women, not miss canines.

    Those with only a canine are less prone to join in a violent thing or even attend a violent possibility.

    Strange female hormones or traits?

    Testosterone exhibits itself in certain ways. That's why GOD created estrogen.

    Now days we have testosterone wanting to put on estrogen under garments.

    'It makes me feel as if my woman is cupping my balls all day', they say.
     
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    When I'm in the mood for lady x, I put hers on. If I'm in the mood for lady b, I put hers on. All ladies have one. If not, then just snatch one from their dirty clothes hamper and I'll have her scent and feel.

    Not strange? Yes. Strange.

    And the 'general public' boys laugh and high five.



    Turn up the volume for the first dialogue, be careful of the super loud kaboom intro music immediately following.

    A library or class room with so many other males, sitting around or flaunting their own package to the camera as they stroll by pushing an empty cart.

    'Microphone'.

    It's all good right? They aren't doing anything wrong right? They're not hurting anyone right?

    That's the response most likely to be received if a person was addressed about the issue, at the school or in your own living room.

    Facebook founder Mark Zuckenberg was asked to sit before Senators to give his explanations.

    What about this?



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    youtu.be/FX95zM8Y-Hw

    Read the comments if you want to see how others see this.

    And all for the freedom to have sexual intercourse with whomever you want? The sexual alluding ads don't help the cause but only adds fuel to the fire.

    If it's my right to use my anus any way I want, why are you telling me that it is not my right? And if it is my right to have surgery, why are you telling me that it is violating in any way? And if it is my right to insert my penis into a consensual person, why are you telling me that his/her consent is in violation.

    If it's my right to smoke, drink, inject, swallow anything I want, why are you discriminating based on the amount of times?
     
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    My line of reasoning was specifically with the fact that interpretations have been incorrect in mind.
     
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    And from laypeople, especially non-believers, they almost always will be.
     

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