My Problems with New Atheism

Would you please edit your post? Renee made a clerical error when she quoted me. The text above the dotted line is her. The text below the dotted line is me.

Thanks!

 

Wow!

He has a strong bias and he's thrashing around for a justification.

 

Would you please edit your post?

Those are my words being quoted.

Thanks!

 

So you admit humans are far worse than God. Thanks.

 

When human beings watch other people suffer when they have the power to stop it then yes they are not worse than God but the same. You can’t be worse than an omnipotent force that has the ability to stop a tsunami or stop in earthquake or has the ability to make some rain so people don’t die and famines

 

No, god is ever far worse than CHIMPS are, because I bet most chimps don't kill CHILDREN, which god of the Bible does in many verses!

 

It means just because you refuse to believe, doesn;t mean it goes away.

 

Yes, I apologize - one of my recent posts had TWO post-quotes, by accident, so it looked very misleading.

 

You worship "self". You proclaim yourself "better" and all knowing than God. That is what you have in common with the religious Pharisees that Jesus called " white washed sepulchers, nice to look at with the smell of death on the inside". You think you are good by your own standards.....yet you just don't measure up!

 

Those of you that embrace the leftist ideals try very hard to erase the "standard". That is...a Mom and Dad, sons and daughters, grandfathers and grandmothers etc. Sure there are exceptions that are unfortunate and Christians try to intervene and re institute "family". Those of you on the Marxist left, however, want to redefine it in the form of a "village". That is why you promote LBGTQ lifestyles as purely natural and the new enlightened way to replace traditional family. Instead of working to strengthen the model of marriage between a man and women, there are those of you that sanctify divorce. Don't tell me that doesn't happen. I have heard it said by many of you, "nobody suffers in divorce, it happens all the time." And I have heard that 1st hand by state sponsored counselors. This is not just a conspiracy theory either. It is happening. We have a generation of unstable children and broken homes because of it. It falls in line with what Karl Marx believed needed to happen in order to have his "collective society".

That is what I am not only trying to say....It is what I am saying.

 

I do know the age of the earth is not 6000 years old like the geneologies in the Bible add up to, so yes, I'm "better" and more knowing than your invisible friend in the sky is, obviously.

 

I'm also more ethical, more caring, more compassionate than god/Jesus, because if it were up to ME I'd have arrested the Devil (or killed him, if needed). Jesus met the Devil, but didn't even try or bring that up. Your boys has had 2000 years to do that, and nope, hasn't done that. He's below me. I do what's best for humanity, but Jesus does what's best for JESUS! One example: it's not about good works and being ethical, no, to Jesus it's all about him: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me, me, ME - IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!" - an accurate re-interpretation of John 14:6.

 

Policing fails because police don't go into areas where they cannot enforce laws and where they are prosecuted for arresting ethnic gang members due to accusations of racism.

 

You state my case. But I am not going to put my trust in you or any man or woman!

 

You do understand of course, that by posting what you did you have set yourself above all others and acted as judge in place of your own God (which he does not like), In this you show yourself to be as unchrist like as possible....good job.

 

You take that belief on faith, and it is a faith that you are all knowing. I'm sure it is a very private belief system exclusive to only "self".

 

No, science proves to us that the particular unique god in the BIBLE is not real.\
Darwin's Fact of Evolution showed us that the specific god of the Bible is not real - because it showed that creationism per Genesis is obviously wrong.

 

So if you had the power, would YOU arrest (or kill) the Devil? I would, because I love humanity more than god/Jesus does. What about you?

 

Instead, you put your trust in the stories and legends of said "man or woman" - people who lived thousands of years ago, and were so stupid that they didn't even know where the sun went at night, and thought it was ok to kill gays!

 

If one does not take the Resurrection of Jesus literally, then there is no basis to believe any of the other Biblical claims. If one does not believe that heaven or hell literally exist then what motivation is there for a Christian to follow the will of God?

 

Nobody is "erasing" any "standard".

The catch is that people don't override the reasons for their decisions by simply adhering to some standard.

There are very good reasons for divorce - as well recognized by the red state stats. And, it would be totally unacceptable to respond to that by others to act toward those individuals as if they should have adhered to your standard.

Your concept of "village" is ridiculous. The references to village indicate the idea that we need to be there for each other. Your church community is a village. Is it a Marxist village? I really doubt it. But, I don't doubt for a minute that it serves every purpose that is implied by "it takes a village".

And, no, I don't promote an "LBGTQ lifestyle". I promote treating others as I would prefer that they treat me - as equals. I would prefer that our government treat them as per the constitution - as equals under the law.

NOBODY is "replacing" your concept of family. And, you aren't "replacing" the way others have chosen to live their lives, either. Your attempts are merely cheap and perhaps even illegal discrimination. That's on YOU, not them. And, it isn't acceptable.

As for "broken homes", it is the red states including the bible belt that has just as many if not more broken homes.

Tell me:
Do those states have that problem because they are Marxists???

I want to know.

 

I trust in God...not your ignorance.

 

And, they aren't going to be let in without there being more work done to gain the trust of the community.

It's gone on a long time, so it's not going to happen overnight.

But, let's remember that those communities do want policing they can trust.

As for prosecution for shooting unarmed black kids, you have no complaint at all. Police have been able to shoot black kids for free.

And, the reason is that for the police in too many places, black lives do not matter.

 

Robin, I agree with you here. But I believe, and not because of heaven and hell. I believe there is a more perfect way than what is in the minds of men and women, It is love based and it is God. Not the love I have seen described by the bona-fide atheists on this thread either.

 

And to BLM....black policeman do not matter either. They assasinate them as well.