NASA Data: Earth Cooled by Half a Degree Celsius From '16-'18 Read Newsmax: Earth Cooled by Half a

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  1. Mac-7

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    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/earth-cool-half-degree-says-nasa/2018/05/16/id/860837/

    NASA appears to be defying the world man-made-global-warming hoax
     
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    You people have hated NASA for years, not to mention science.
    You get a tiny bit of good news for your cause, spanning almost two years, and
    suddenly NASA is your champion? What a huge surprise.
     
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    Global warming supporters, predictors of all things warming couldn't predict a cooling period. When it comes they go denial.
    Cant win with that coconut mentality
     
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    It's called "cherry-picking". It's also why "global warming" is a misnomer. "Climate change" is the more accurate term. One concern among climate researchers is that the melting of the ice caps could shut down the Atlantic conveyor belt system.

    From the actual link: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/

    https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20180118/
    Earth's global surface temperatures in 2017 ranked as the second warmest since 1880, according to an analysis by NASA.

    Continuing the planet's long-term warming trend, globally averaged temperatures in 2017 were 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.90 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean, according to scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. That is second only to global temperatures in 2016
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    https://pmm.nasa.gov/education/videos/thermohaline-circulation-great-ocean-conveyor-belt

    https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/atlantic20100325.html
    The latest climate models predict the overturning circulation will slow down as greenhouse gases warm the planet and melting ice adds freshwater to the ocean. "Warm, freshwater is lighter and sinks less readily than cold, salty water," Willis explained.

    For now, however, there are no signs of a slowdown in the circulation. "The changes we're seeing in overturning strength are probably part of a natural cycle," said Willis. "The slight increase in overturning since 1993 coincides with a decades-long natural pattern of Atlantic heating and cooling."
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    Or at least since they stopped being the NASA that put a man on the moon and became, under obama, community organizers who have to pay the russians to get our people to the International Space Station
     
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    The change to “Climate Change” was not by choice

    World temps stopped rising and the mam-made-global-warming-we’re-all-gonna-die chant was making the greenies look like fools
     
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    It's good to know that you all trust NASA and therefore their conclusions.

    There is 100% confidence that the earth is warming, and about 95% confidence that human activities are a significant cause of that warming.

    Beyond that fact there is nothing but noise.
     
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    If a bank robber denies his crime chances are he’s lying

    But if he confesses to the crime he’s most likely telling the truth

    Maybe the obama politicalization and wusification of NASA was not permanent after all
     
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    It might appear that way when you don't bother to read beyond the headline you were shown in your right-wing disinformation silo of choice before copy-pasting the article here.

     
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    That makes sense in a lib la la sort of way

    The earth always gets cooler during global warming spells
     
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    It makes sense if you read the article you posted, Troll-7.
     
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    Well not according to the AGW folks. Their position can never be wrong for even a cooling is what they say happens with global warming. So, they cannot lose. If the earth cools, it is still warming, and of course if it is warming, that happens to with global warming.

    Of course if you saw something like this, heads I win, tales you lose in other areas of life, most will call it out really quick, that this is what con men do. ha ha. But not when it comes to this issue. So no matter what temps end up being, it does not matter. Even if you got 20 years of cooling, they would say this is to be expected with global warming. For warming is special, and what you would say about any other field making these claims would mean something, but it is exempt from incoherence.

    So when you can only prove global warming by co2 exists, no matter what happens...heads I win, tales you lose, and cooling equals warming and warming equals warming...ha ha ha. Well, it starts to look like a religion with its faithful and true believers. Complete with the religious like fervor.

    It looks like science can turn into something resembling a religion. And some people are saying just that. And some of these are scientists. Who are basically called heretics by those with the faith. Seldom are the points made by these heretics get addressed, for if they are heretics there is no need to address the points these scientists will make, in questioning the "settled science". Yet the very history of science involves what some say was settled, as being far from settled, evidenced by new discoveries and new knowledge that comes from such discoveries. So real scientists have qualms about uttering certitude when it comes to science. But others don't seem to have such a reluctance. ha ha. Priests of any religion generally do not have reluctance either, when it comes to their beliefs about their religion. And like some scientists, exhibit certainty. The scientists who will not have such certainty of course become heretics. ha ha ha.
     
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    I think that even if we saw the beginning of another ice age, the faithful would still say it is global warming. This paradigm is very common among all of the religious.

    I like what freeman dyson said on this subject. That even if the earth was warming, due to natural climate change, aided by co2 levels being higher, that this may be a good thing instead of a bad thing, once the net good or net bad is determined. For a warming earth has always benefited our species, and its the cooling that brings the most negative effects.

    As population continues to grow, a warmer earth, opening up new agricultural areas to the north, might be the means to feed an ever growing population of humans.

    So I am wondering now....if you double your human population, adding more bodies at the heat of 98.6, would adding billions over time warm up the earth? And since co2 levels, higher levels is said to also warm up the climate, has anyone ever figured out what losing hundreds of millions of acres of forests and other flora has added to the co2 levels, given that plants extract co2 from the air?

    And if we were so concerned about co2 levels rising and driving global warming, why has there been no effort, worldwide, to stop rain forest deforestation as we also added billions of co2 extracting flora? The lack of such an effort, and only wanting to address it with carbon taxes, seems just a bit suspect here. And it should make anyone suspicious! For it looks like carbon taxes, which is a way to redistribute money from everyone else, into the hands of the few at the top who are already richer than hell, is the only thing some people want to do to address rising co2 and a warming.

    If the world does not ever get serious about land management, and only will try to solve a problem with taxation, redistributing income to the top, then clearly this is not a very serious issue at all. And it looks just like another scheme to make the rich, richer.

    So carbon taxes or bust!!!
     
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    Ha!

    I’ll get right on that
     
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    The greenie message is “Don’t think. Just go directly to panic mode”
     
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    I know the learned scientific geniuses on the Supreme Court say otherwise

    But I dont consider CO2 a pollutant
     
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    I hear you, but both sides have strong arguments. Of course, one side is using their observations to find more ways of confiscating more money from tax payers.

    We are putting a lot more than just CO2 out there and I feel that the less poison, the better.
     
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    Global warming/ Climate change = Excuse to tax the public.
     
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    And what steps has trump taken to undo the damage Obama’s did to NASA?
     

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