NATO forces in Ukraine are a possible threat to Russia

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The Telegraph has been a fairly reliable source, but I sure hope this is not what it is alleged to be, a US-controlled US drone stationed in Ukraine attacking Russia, exactly as Russia alleged might happen.

 

What , you mean Russia needs “proof” ?

What if they’re just volunteers ? You know, like Russia was inserting into the Donbas for 8 years.

 

Hopefully its a US supplied, Ukrainian controlled drone... not that I doubt for a second that theres a lot of 'Ukrainian' troops that are really just NATO troops... but still. If we're actually attacking Russia, then we're starting WW3.

But also, could easily be a false flag. Drones can be hacked, captured and reprogrammed...

 

It isn't the first missile attack Kyiv has made into Russia, I recall looking up one a couple of weeks ago about 5 miles over the border in Russia, near Petrovka if I recall.

Biden and his lackeys are getting the U.S. into a lot of trouble.

 

Putin must be saying oh sh*t what have I gotten myself into. Too late for excuses or explanations now little buddy. You know the West are testing all their new battlefield tech on you, right?

 

There might be a simple explanation, like before he dies Biden wants to see WW3.

 

So the theory is that NATO weapons are going to annihilate Russia's ability to make war? And then what? Russia just sits there without a military as a heavily armed European army is 300 miles from Moscow in the same corridor that Europeans have historically used multiple times to launch devastating invasions of Russia?

If you feel that the above is a good plan, then you are a danger to my security as an American, and that basically includes the Biden administration, and most of Congress. Because where you propose to take us is a VERY dangerous place, that should only be reached under the most dire threat, and that doesn't include to defend 15% of the territory of what was considered by everyone just 3 years ago as one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

 

The U.S. and Biden have been winding up Putin for years.

The Bush Sr administration said if Gorby dismantled the Warsaw Pact and broke up the USSR then we would not advance one inch Eastward.

So Clinton and Bush Jr added a lot more countries into NATO.

Pres. Putin said adding Ukraine to NATO would be crossing the brightest red line, so Biden crossed it.

 

My only proposal is we stop arming foreign govts and arm their citizens instead. Let them sort their own **** out, or not. And I havnt made any proposals in this particular thread yet, so Im wondering if you've confused me with someone else...

 

Uhhh...well...I think we already attacked..."Russia"....wasn't Kherson City Russki territory?.....Zelensky should've been arrested?

 

Key word....."said"....not an inch Eastward?

Any documents???....No?.....then it's null and void.

 

Well...yeah....key strategy is to destroy 80% of Russki military....they'll need 20% to quell riots and insurrection. You can only bluff so long with your nukes.

 

By 'we' I mean the US. Ukraine can attack Russia all it wants. Russia hasnt attacked the US, Ukraine is not our ally, so if we're attacking Russia, we better be doing it with plausible deniability or its US starting a war.

...we really shouldnt be involved at all. But the MIC is as the MIC does.

 

And I hope there will be many more.
ruZZia is a terrorist state and violence is the only language Pooteen understands.

 

Ukraine can attack Russia ...."all it wants"...yeahhh sure.....and that's going over really swell...isn't it.LOL.

Kherson"Russia" gets liberated....lights go out in Ukraine....

 

Plausible deniability.

So if we can confuse ourselves into thinking we didn't attack Russia, then we have also fooled Russia.

 

The "MIC" (military industrial complex) no longer exists and hasn't since the 1950s.

And don't start that insane babbling about the size of the U.S. defense budget.

 

Well sure, it can't do much attacking without the rest of the world avalanching it with arms, but I mean its welcome to attack all it wants, as far as I'm concerned.

 

No. I mean if we're gonna attack Russia (which of course we shouldn't, but we're prolly gonna anyway), we better do it in a way that no one can prove it because we don't have any justification for doing it. No 'casus beli' or w/e.

 

Are you suggesting the defense industry doesn't have any influence over public (and foreign) policy? I don't mean officially, I mean realistically.

 

Not nearly as much as many seem to think

 

At this point I would be totally fine with NATO troops in Ukraine. Draw the line, let Russia cross it and then bury their ****ing ability to wage war. Or "special military operations"

 

Liked those camel boots!!

anyway that's good news thanks for posting...there has been a lot fires reported lately in Russia...its a lot to do with their reeeeeaaaaallllly crappy construction and the shoddy materials that go in them...god knows if they actually adhere to any building/fire codes?? But I guess that's what you get when you have a totally corrupt economy.

 

I would hazard a guess that may happen sooner...rather than later.

Patriot missile systems are being discussed far more now....for missile defense for the cities.

 

Yeah....lotsa fires happening in Mafialand as of late.....must be careless smokers?