NBC fires Matt Lauer after complaint about 'inappropriate sexual behavior'

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  1. Renee

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    I left this part out - to protect the innocent.

    "He said she cornered him alone after the annual Assembly softball game in Sacramento as he attempted to clean up the dugout. Fierro, who said Garcia appeared inebriated, said she began stroking his back, then squeezed his buttocks and attempted to touch his crotch before he extricated himself and quickly left."
    POLITICO, #MeToo movement lawmaker investigated for sexual misconduct allegations, California legislator cut national profile as activist against sexual harassment., By CARLA MARINUCCI 02/08/2018.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/08/cristina-garcia-california-metoo-398985
     
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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since you want to go there, I'd guess a huge swath of people (like me) voted for Trump NOT because of who he was, but rather because of who he wasn't - Hillary. I've said it dozens of times here: My support of Trump begins and ends with his not being Hilla. Your comment is a cousin to Madeline Albright's "There's a special place in Hell for women who don't support other women," line.

    If I could be bothered to search it up, somewhere on PF is a post I made listing a bunch of ladies I would have gladly voted in as prez. But more to the point, an argument can also be made that a bunch of people voted for Hilla knowing she was a lady who did criminal acts and enabled the degradation of other women. Probably not an argument you want to make.
     
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    Are you serious? Women are more likely to engage in harassment than men because most men either wouldn't care or feel complimented. When a woman grabs a guy's butt no one thinks twice about it, but if a man does it then get the lawyers ready.

    Not only are men less likely to give a crap and report harassment, men within certain cultures wouldn't allow themselves to report it because it makes them look like wimps. Do you think blacks and Hispanics are going to admit they let a woman get the best of them? How about Muslims? About the only people who would run to their safe spaces if they had their butts grabbed are wimpy white liberal pajama boys.
     
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    Women are not afraid to commit sexual battery on camera.

    275. Katy Perry, "Ms. Perry motioned for him to come over to the judges’ table and stuck her face toward him. “One on the cheek?” he said and she smiled. He quickly touched his face to her cheek. She asked for another kiss, complaining that he hadn’t even made the “smush sound.” As he moved toward her cheek again, Ms. Perry swung her face toward him and kissed him quickly on the lips. “Katy!” he yelled, as he stumbled backward. “You didn’t!” Ms. Perry raised her arms in victory.

    Mr. Glaze then asked for a drink of water, delivered a lackluster audition and was kindly rejected by the judges."

    THE NEW YORK TIMES, An Unwanted Kiss on ‘American Idol’, By KATHERINE ROSMAN, MARCH 14, 2018.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/14/style/katy-perry-kiss-american-idol.html
     
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    In this country if you’re a part of the victim class then you can victimize anyone you want and get away with it.
     
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    Oh I see. Women are more guilty than men because they molasses and then a lot more but men don’t report it. You really can’t believe that. Maybe you should realize that women don’t do that. I am sure there are the exceptions but since you think this is such a problem they should have a me too for men...
     
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    Sounds like victim envy is getting the best of you. Yes we have such a problem with women going around molesting men. I think me and have a more common problem of men molesting them. It’s kind of a male thing
     
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    Most men don't need a #metoo, that's why we're men....well, at least some of us are.
     
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    Be honest, if you grabbed a man's butt do you think he's going to call the police and get you fired? Or is he more likely to ignore it? The rules are different for men and women and you know it.
     
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    If a guy grabbed a mans butt, he wouldn’t report it either.
    I don’t think you understand the # me too movement , women have been groped and grabbed and sexually assaulted for generations. most didn’t report it either because they would get fired or not believed. I don’t think men had that problem.
     
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    Men don't report it because we can take a punch without falling apart, our complaints would go no where, and the accused woman would probably end up being the victim anyway and the guy punished, that is if his complaint was ignored in the first place.

    Why are women so fragile? You say you're equal to men only to crash and burn if your butt is grabbed.
     
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    Almost anything.

    296. Melanie Martinez, "Melanie Martinez, the platinum-selling pop singer who first became famous from her appearances on The Voice, has been accused of sexual assault. Fellow musician Timothy Heller, who says she was formerly best friends with Martinez, posted a detailed account on Twitter accusing Martinez of molesting her and nonconsensually performing oral sex and penetrating her with a sex toy, even after Heller said no:

    In the tweet, Heller wrote that her friendship with Martinez was fraught to begin with, claiming that it was defined by “codependency” and that Martinez wielded “power over” her emotionally first. “Her power over me grew and grew,” Heller wrote, “And I was silenced.”
    JEZABEL, Pop Singer Melanie Martinez Accused of Sexual Assault by Female Former Best Friend, By Julianne Escobedo Shepherd, 12/05/17 4:15pmFiled to: SEXUAL ASSAULT.
    https://jezebel.com/pop-singer-melanie-martinez-accused-of-sexual-assault-b-1821025157
     
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    Men don’t report it because it doesn’t happen .
    Women or not so fragile. If you notice women in power are not sexually harassed. It is men who think their powerful positions enable them to do these acts. I find it sad that you think equal means the same. It doesn’t. Men and women are not the same but they should be treated as equals
    And yes men are physically stronger than women. I just hope you don’t have a daughter.
     
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    Yet another person's life destroyed without a trial or true evidence at all.

    Whether you like him or not, to cheer for this type of action to continue to ruin lives on both the Right and the Left is sinking our population, culture and country itself to new lows
     
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    I kind of feel sorry for the women’s lives who have been ruined by powerful men
     
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    Unfortunately, most men would view it as a 'score'.

    While there are many women who have truly been 'harassed or assaulted", the definition has changed it seems. Asking for a date could land you in the harasser column. Unless you are cute, then the definition changes again.....
     
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    Well how would you feel if your boss is a man and he grabs your balls without asking. How would you feel if your mail boss asked you out for a date.
     
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    I'll have to punch him hard and warn him to never do that again.........as for the date thing, I would tell him to pound sand. :D I could not resist responding to your valid point!
     
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    120 pound woman being manhandled by a 240 pound man who is 8 inches taller than her like you getting groped and then Shaq shoving his tongue down your throat.

    I'm sure you can "take it without falling apart."

    WHERE TO BEGIN? The Problem With ‘Feminist’ Men.

    At home, it seems, Mr. Schneiderman was a sexual sadist and manipulative misogynist. At work, he was a champion of women’s rights, investigating potential charges against Harvey Weinstein, appearing at events supporting reproductive freedom, and even writing a bill specifically to punish the same kind of strangulation he is said to have forced on some of his partners.

    How do we reconcile these two versions of a single man? It wasn’t just that Mr. Schneiderman appears to have been a feminist in the brightness of day but a violent misogynist when the lights went down.

    The reality may be darker: that the power he derived from his role in progressive politics was intertwined with his abuse. He seems to have used his feminist-minded political work to advance his own career, to ingratiate himself with the women he would go on to harm, and to cover up his cruelties

    Jill Filipovic might not realize it, but she’s making an excellent argument for less of the “progressive” government which empowers abusers while providing cover for it, too.
     
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    Ok...But you realize men are physically stronger. But notice your rage at what you would do. Women internalize that rage and men think it’s OK. Well finally women have taken their “punches“ in a different form and men better behave
     
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    But if you notice Mr. Schneiderman and Weinstein is gone..but the groper in chief is Not only is he there, but his pathetic supporters still defend his behavior.
     
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    Everyone knew he was a randy billionaire when we elected him, he's never pretended to be otherwise, and he's a bit of a shiny penny compared to these self-righteous Lefties like, well hells bells, we don't even have room to list all the moralizing self righteous "feminist" Left Wingers that have brought down by the #METOO movement which was originally designed to snare Trump, the despicable behavior they have shown toward women and potted plants, the mind simply boggles.
     
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    That guy did NOT speak for all of us, a fact that I trust you understand.
     
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    Grabbing/feeling body parts is one thing, and shouldn't be something that anyone has to deal with, but we live in the real world and not some utopia. Had it done to me, didn't like it, and physically reacted. I also started looking for a new job.

    Asking someone on date (regardless of gender mix) is on a case by case basis. There are ways to say no thank you (been there also) that don't offend anyone, and if they get offended, so be it.

    I think what you have to stop and think about is some, I repeat, SOME of these women put the value of their employment above their personal value. That the perpetrator is a scum-puppy is a given. But how a woman responds to it is on her.
     

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