Neozionist military whitewashes 21 murders.

There can be absolutely no excuse for this atrocity. The circumstances were crystal clear to everybody present. These people were deliberately targeted by fascist brutes as part of the illegal collective punishment operation known as Operation Cast Lead. The neozionists murdered 400 children in that operation, along with a thousand other people. In New York, neozionist cronies danced in the steets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABqq_jjRRo

 

I don't approve of these deaths, Moon, but if the Gazan factions (especially Hamas) didn't attack Israel at regular intervals (especially with rockettes) the Israelis would have much less excuse to attack targets in Gaza. If you shelter your fighters and commanders in built up urban areas, this sort of thing will inevitably happen.

 

So you do approve of these deaths then. You cheer-lead for 'collateral damage' by tacit approval . There will always be resistance and Gaza will always be one of the most crowded places on earth. These two facts are products of invasion. Mealy-mouthed support for ' collateral damage ' invariably neglects to mention the illegal status of the occupier. Only the resistance to illegality acts illegally, right ? See you, jimmy.

 

What he's saying is that if Hamas continues to attack Israel and use civilians as human shields then this sort of tragedy is bound to happen.

 

Spot on.

 

Graffiti left by Israeli soldiers in the house of Talal al-Samouni, which were photographed by the Mission, included in Hebrew, under the Star of David: “The Jewish people are alive” and, above a capital “T” [referring to the army (Tsahal)],

“This was written with blood”; on a drawing of a grave, in English and Arabic, “Arabs 1948-2008 ”; and in English: “You can run but you can not hide”, “Die you all”, “ 1 is down, 999,999 to go”, “Arabs need to die” and “Make war not peace”.

They rounded up the Samouni family in one home and then slaughtered them.

Israel investigating itself is like George Dubya Bush investigatiing himself. A big joke!

They and their supporters are from the devil.

 

' Spot on ' ? It was an act of deliberate murder. Even neozionist lick-spittles cannot shovel these corpses into their ' collateral damage ' bin. These people were under the ' protection ' of the neozionist military. Step out of your ruts and check the road.

 

I think I will change my signature today to that quote !!!

 

' KRUSTY THE CLOWN ' is just fine. It epitomizes the desperate state of US of AIPAC democracy.

 

From the report


709. During the morning of 4 January 2009, Israeli soldiers entered many of the houses in al-Samouni area. One of the first, around 5 a.m., was the house of Ateya Helmi al-Samouni, a 45-year-old man. Faraj, his 22-year-old son, had already met Israeli soldiers some minutes earlier as he stepped outside the house to warn his neighbours that their roof was burning.

The soldiers entered Ateya al-Samouni’s house by force, throwing some explosive device, possibly a grenade. In the midst of the smoke, fire and loud noise, Ateya al-Samouni stepped forward, his arms raised, and declared that he was the owner of the house.

The soldiers shot him while he was still holding his ID and an Israeli driving licence in his hands. The soldiers then opened gunfire inside the room in which all the approximately 20 family members were gathered. Several were injured, Ahmad, a boy of four, particularly seriously.

Soldiers with night vision equipment entered the room and closely inspected each of those present. The soldiers then moved to the next room and set fire to it. The smoke from that room soon started to suffocate the family.

A witness speaking to the Mission recalled seeing “white stuff” coming out of the mouth of his 17-month-old nephew and helping him to breathe.

710. At about 6.30 a.m. the soldiers ordered the family to leave the house. They had to leave Ateya’s body behind but were carrying Ahmad, who was still breathing.

The family tried to enter the house of an uncle next door, but were not allowed to do so by the soldiers. The soldiers told them to take the road and leave the area, but a few metres further a different group of soldiers stopped them and ordered the men to undress completely.

Faraj al-Samouni, who was carrying the severely injured Ahmad, pleaded with them to be allowed to take the injured to Gaza. The soldiers allegedly replied using abusive language. They also said “You are bad Arabs”. “You go to Nitzarim”.

711. Faraj al-Samouni, his mother and others entered the house of an uncle in the neighbourhood.

From there, they called PRCS. As described below, at around 4 p.m. that day a PRCS ambulance managed to come in the vicinity of the house where Ahmad was lying wounded, but was prevented by the Israeli armed forces from rescuing him.

Ahmad died at around 2 a.m. during the night of 4 to 5 January.

The following morning those present in the house, about 45 persons, decided to leave.

They made themselves white flags and walked in the direction of Salah ad-Din Street. A group of soldiers on the street told them to go back to the house, but the witness said that they walked on in the direction of Gaza. The soldiers shot at their feet, without injuring anyone, however. Two kilometres further north on Salah ad-Din Street, they found ambulances which took the injured to al-Shifa hospital in Gaza.

2. The attack on the house of Wa’el al-Samouni

712. In other cases, the entry of soldiers was less violent than in Ateya al-Samouni’s home. In one instance, the soldiers landed on the roof and descended the stairs to the ground floor, separated men from women, searched and handcuffed the men. In another case they broke into a house by knocking a hole in the wall with a sledgehammer. At the house of Saleh al-Samouni, the Israeli soldiers knocked on the door and ordered those inside to open it. All the persons inside the house stepped out one by one and Saleh’s father identified each of the family members in Hebrew for the soldiers. According to Saleh al-Samouni, they asked to be allowed to go to Gaza City, but the soldiers refused and instead ordered them to go to Wa’el al-Samouni’s house across the street.

713. The Israeli soldiers also ordered those in other houses to move to Wa’el al-Samouni’s house. As a result, around 100 members of the extended al-Samouni family, the majority women and children, were assembled in that house by noon on 4 January. There was hardly any water and no milk for the babies. Around 5 p.m. on 4 January, one of the women went outside to fetch firewood. There was some flour in the house and she made bread, one piece for each of those present.

714. In the morning of 5 January 2009, around 6.30 – 7 a.m., Wa’el al-Samouni, Saleh al-Samouni, Hamdi Maher al-Samouni, Muhammad Ibrahim al-Samouni and Iyad al-Samouni, stepped outside the house to collect firewood. Rashad Helmi al-Samouni remained standing next to the door of the house.

Saleh al-Samouni has pointed out to the Mission that from where the Israeli soldiers were positioned on the roofs of the houses they could see the men clearly.

Suddenly, a projectile struck next to the five men, close to the door of Wa’el’s house and killed Muhammad Ibrahim al-Samouni and, probably, Hamdi Maher al-Samouni. The other men managed to retreat to the house. Within about five minutes, two or three more projectiles had struck the house directly. Saleh and Wa’el al-Samouni stated at the public hearing that these were missiles launched from Apache helicopters. The Mission has not been able to determine the type of munition used.

715. Saleh al-Samouni stated that overall 21 family members were killed and 19 injured in the attack on Wa’el al-Samouni’s house. The dead include Saleh al-Samouni’s father, Talal Helmi al-Samouni, his mother, Rahma Muhammad al-Samouni, and his two-year-old daughter Azza. Three of his sons, aged five, three and less than one year (Mahmoud, Omar and Ahmad), were injured, but survived. Of Wa’el’s immediate family, a daughter and a son (Rezqa, 14, and Fares, 12) were killed, while two smaller children (Abdullah and Muhammad) were injured. The photographs of all the dead victims were shown to the Mission at the home of the al-Samouni family and displayed at the public hearing in Gaza.

[Note: The names of the other 15 members of the extended al-Samouni family killed in the attack on Wa’el al-Samouni’s house are: Rabab Izaat (female, aged 37); Tawfiq Rashad (male, aged 22); Layla Nabeeh (female, aged 44); Ismaeil Ibrahim (male, aged 16); Ishaq Ibrahim (male, aged 14); Maha Muhammad (female, aged 20); Muhammad Hilmi Talal (the six-year-old son of Maha); Hanan Khamis Sa'di (female, aged 36); Huda Naiel (female, aged 17); Rezqa Muhammad Mahmoud (female, aged 56); Safaa Sobhi (female, aged 24); al-Moa'tasim Bilah Muhammad (male, aged six months); Hamdi Maher (male, aged 24); Rashad Helmi (male, aged 42); Nassar Ibrahim Hilmi (male, aged 6).]

716. After the shelling of Wa’el al-Samouni’s house, most of those inside decided to leave immediately and walk to Gaza City, leaving behind the dead and some of the wounded. The women waved their scarves. Soldiers, however, ordered the al-Samounis to return to the house. When family members replied that there were many injured among them, the soldiers’ reaction was, according to Saleh al-Samouni, “go back to death”. They decided not to follow this injunction and walked in the direction of Gaza City. Once in Gaza, they went to PRCS and told them about the injured that had remained behind.

 

now that I see it it is not so good as Krusty. I think Krusty has to be returned to remind Americans to vote for him

 

Here's a picture of Krusty being examined by the recently deposed fellow Egyptian Hawas.

 

You want to stop the attacks by Hamas? Fine, then Israel needs to abide by the law; withdraw from the Occupied Territories, remove the Gazan blockade and both demolish the existing illegal Zionist squats on Palestinian land, and immediately cease new builds.

As for the use of human shields, Israel's brave and fearless IDF warriors have routinely used this tactic-young children are favourites. I have plenty of evidence.

 

Feel free to post your "evidence."

 

You'll be commenting on these facts, will you ?

' The practice ' ?

 

Too easy; far too easy! Anyway, at least we have one more educated American...

 

While it was a tragic accident which do happen in war time (heck, friendly fire incidents happen all the time too), here is an interesting quote showing that the Arabs do know that Israeli troops are doing their best to protecti non-combatants:

 

The dead people, you mean ? They possibly felt that the other neozionist brutes wouldn't strike so close to their neozionist chums.

 

Nope, those who survived. In wars tragic mistakes do happen but the belief of Arab non-combatants (which was based on their experience of 60 years of hostilities) that Israeli soldiers did not intend to hurt civilians is certainly worth noting.

LOL, your own words prove that it was a mistake as "neozionist brutes" would not have deliberately tried to strike "so close to their neozionist chums". Good job, moon!

 

On the contrary. Those that spotted for the strike were at a safe distance. The victims couldn't have known that. Any more desperate excuses from you ?

 

That was not an excuse, the Arab civilians said that they felt safe in the presence of IDF soldiers who knew they were civilians. A tragic mistake did happen but they lived in the war zone all their lives, they are not clueless or naive, their expectation of safety was based on their life time experience and 60 years of conflict which taught them that the IDF does not target civilians.

 

It's universally acknowledged that the IOF targets civilians. IOF personnel have attested to that fact. The IOF even target 3-year old kids, as documented evidence proves. Your whitewashing is short of its brush, as well as its whitewash.

 

Utter Dreck - -

Israelis do NOT admit to their crimes .

However , you seem to have avoided noticing this from tne same Haaretz link : putting it mildly :



"Attorney Yael Stein of B'Tselem said in response, "It cannot be that in a well-managed system no person will be found guilty of the army operation that led to the killing of 21 people who were not involved in combat, and resided in a structure on the instructions of the army – even if the attack was not done purposefully," she said.

"The manner in which the army rids itself of responsibility in this case… again illustrates the need for an investigatory body outside of the army."

 

Nonsense. While after 60 years of wars you can probably find a few cases of bad apples, it's universally acknowledged that the IDF does not target civilians, quite the opposite, it resorts to unprecedented measures (leaflets, phone calls, text messages etc) to warn non-combatants of the location of the imminent attack.

 

As she admits that the attack was not deliberate, therefore the only other potential prosecutable legal case is negligence. If there was no negligence or it can't be proven - there is no case. American and British forces routinely bombed funerals and weddings in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, no one was prosecuted as neither intent nor negligence could be proven.