New law to make California first state to end bail ......

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    California will become the first state to eliminate bail for suspects awaiting trial and replace it with a still murky risk-assessment system under a bill signed Tuesday by Gov. Jerry Brown.

    Brown's signature gives the state's judicial council broad authority to reshape pretrial detention policies ahead of the new law's October 2019 start date.

    Based on the council's framework, each county's superior court will set its own procedures for deciding who to release before trial, potentially creating a patchwork system based on where a suspect lives.

    Most suspects accused of nonviolent felonies will be released within 12 hours of booking, while those charged with serious, violent felonies will stay in jail before trial.

    California's new law is the latest development in the nationwide debate over bail, which many people say unfairly punishes people for being poor. Other states including New Jersey, Alaska and New Mexico have overhauled their bail systems, although no other state has completely eliminated bail.

    Other states have been watching California as they weigh overhauling their bail systems, said Margaret Dooley-Sammuli, who works on criminal justice issues for the American Civil Liberties Union.

    The ACLU has been in talks with more than 30 other states about bail overhaul and is now advising them to avoid using California as a model because its system won't ensure due process and won't prevent racial bias, she said.

    It gives officials 24 hours to determine whether a suspect should be released before trial. That time can be extended by 12 hours if necessary......snip~


    https://start.att.net/news/read/cate...end_bail_be-ap



    Ah, Democrats prove once again their ideas are failures. Now a hodgepodge leading to disaster. What say ye?
     
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    I say California Democrats, who are actually Progressives who dominate what has become the New Democratic Party, have only just begun to show the Nation what the future looks like should they gain complete National Power.

    For example, yesterday, at the last minute, the California State Assembly passed a number of bills, two of which should shock citizens to the core. Here's one:

    The California Assembly has advanced legislation limiting the state's felony murder rule that holds accomplices to the same standard as if they had personally killed someone.

    Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/article217532010.html#storylink=cpy
    So if you're in the get away car, or you're serving as a lookout, you won't be held accountable for a murder committed by your accomplice.
     
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    Not even the ACLU is backing California up on this one.
     
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    We'll see what happens in the Senate.

    The other one their kicking around, although I don't think they pulled it off at the last minute, involved sentencing. From what was described on a local radio show, it would limit sentencing for people convicted of multiple counts of the same offense, to only that applied to one count, times 2.

    For example, a serial rapist convicted of 8 counts couldn't be sentenced to 8x's the jail time of one count. It would be limited to a maximum of double the normal sentence.

    What is the purpose of that?

    The Progressives running my state are doing everything possible to hasten it's imminent destruction.
     
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    Brown just signed the bill on the ending of bail. California Demos were taught by Chicago Demos. What the Demos do with Chicago here. There they are doing with the entire State.

    Plus I heard California just passed another gun law or something connected to that issue.

    People are leaving Chicago. Business and people. Moving to NW Indiana, Wisconsin and Iowa. That's majority of them.
     
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    Because of the way Brown and his fellow Progressive operate, it's difficult to keep up with their actions.

    They are experts at something call "gut and amend". Legislative rules say no bill can be taken up for full vote unless it's passed through committee. So, they keep a load of meaningless bills at the ready that have done so. It could be something like, "A bill to correct punctuation in such and such regulations". They then grab that bill, vote to gut the entire contents and then amend it by inserting their controversial new legislation, and then force it through.

    That's how they passed the legislation that identified CO2 as a GHG, despite statewide objections to it. They did that on a Saturday night, during extraordinary session involving passing a new budget.

    https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Legislators-using-gut-and-amend-to-pass-pet-2775914.php
     
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    What this is going to end up effectively doing is keeping people in jail who previously would have been granted bail under the previous system.
    Very likely it's not going to just include violent felonies but anyone being accused of weapons possession.
    And I foresee many more men who were unfairly accused of domestic violence being coerced into pleading guilty, because if they don't they will end up being held in jail or ordered to restrictive conditions under house arrest, for over a year anyway, until their trial can conclude, because of the backlog of court cases.
     
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