New study confirms the oceans are warming rapidly

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...study-confirms-the-oceans-are-warming-rapidly

Here is where you can find a link to the paper. The net result of this study, which looked at the three different temperature measurements made by three different groups, is that regardless of whose data was used or where the data was gathered, the oceans are warming. If you are interested in more information about the three data sets, the Ishii is the Japan Meterological Agency dataset, the EN4 is the Met Office (UK) dataset, and the IAP is the Chinese Academy of Sciences dataset.

 

And we're very proud of them.

Earth goes through cycles, more news at 11.

 

What is the correct average global temperature supposed to be?

 

Correct (or any of its synonyms) is the wrong word, but of course you are smart enough to recognize that fact.

 

The current cycle is primarily being driven by man made pollution and it is altering the climate at a rate which is roughly 50-100x faster than a normal cycle change.

 

IOW, Surfs up!

 

I hope that you know there is no correct average global temperature.

Stop chasing ghost.

 

Amazing how when you come out of an ice age, the globe warms.

How this befuddles Dims is beyond me.

 

Who says?

 

Bill Nye The Science Guy! Right?

 

So threw out the ole law shingle and printed out a Oceanographer PHD?

 

That's what I was implying and hoped you were smart enough to recognize.

 

You can review the data for yourself. The last time that the CO2 rose 80 points using the Vostok Ice Core Data (and that is the amount that it rose from 1900 to 2000), it took approximately 10,000 years.

 

OKAY

I am sick of the alarmists.

I have in the past quoted Dr. Richard Muller of CAL Berkeley, CA. He was called a denier. He put a team together and is no longer a denier.

Here is what he admits that humans did to Earth.

Over 50 years, we warmed Earth .064 degrees C.

Imagine that. A bit more than a tenth of one degree per year.

Muller in his book, Energy for Future presidents lays the blame on China, India and developing nations. He laments that in the USA, we are tapped out. We simply can't solve the problem.

He believes the ice melting on Greenland happens due to soot.

A solution he proposed is to seed the atmosphere with sulfates. This cools the earth. And the beauty is it does not take very much to neutralize carbon dioxide and we could see some marvelous sunsets.

 

That is not the important part. If we want to blame somebody for carbon dioxide, just blame China and toss in India.

 

What you are saying is blame the Chinese, the Indians in India along with the rest of the developing world.

Suggestions please what they need to do?

 

Ice cores? How many locations were ice cores taken from? I can't remember if it is one, or two.

 

I also blame the United States because we still pollute about 3x as much on a per capita basis.

 

Recommit to the Paris Accord, like India and China.

 

You need really deep levels of ice in order to track back several thousand, and especially hundreds of thousand, years.

But you should strongly support additional ice core studies. I do.

 

so what. 80 points is nothing in the history of the earth. the highest level is over 7000ppm and the average is over 2000ppm.

 

When Mir-a-Lago (?) is under water all the doubters of global warming including the Manchurian candidate will become believers.

 

Yes it does.

 

How many locations are you basing your ice core samples off of?

 

At 1.8 mm/yr. the place will be so long gone by the time the water would even reached the door sills.