New York City Ends Qualified Immunity For Police Officers, Becoming 1st In Nation To Do So

REAL BAD IDEA

So you're a cop in NYC and in the hectic world and fog of police work something doesn't go as planned, or maybe it does go as planned, and some ambulance chasing lawyer is going to sue you. Why would a cop take that risk when it's in his personal interests to not do anything and let the perps do what they want?

And what about situations where the police are ordered to do things, or even ignore things, by de Blasio, then who is held accountable? If the cop ignores the orders he's toast, if he follows them he could be toast.

As far as I know, cops, and only cops, are now being held personally responsible for their actions but not mayors, district attorneys, judges and politicians, just cops.

And let's be honest here, they're saying qualified immunity denies justice to victims of police abuse, but didn't Floyd's family just get $27 million justice dollars even though the cops have yet to be found guilty of anything?

My family who live next to NYC have told me the cops have been rather lax since de Blasio took over, so I can only imagine what's going to happen now.

Let's cut to the chase, NYC and de Blasio hate cops. Period.

 

Good news for those seeking justice.

The notion of Qualified Immunity was pure legal sophistry offered by Earl Warren in the 60's.

 

Now an officer is liable if they take down an armed suspect and injure them... What could go wrong?!?



This was during the defund the police era... Just imagine the how many plan to retire with officers become liable.

NYPD faces wave of officer retirements amid calls to defund police department

 

What you don't seem to understand is that around the country for decades after the sophistry of QI was created, police have acted with impunity in assaulting, maiming and killing innocent civilians. That's what you don't want to talk about.

Instead you offer an appeal to emotion regarding the "poor police officers".

 

People with money are fleeing liberal NYC in droves -- voting with their feet. Is the Federal taxpayer now going to be on the hook for the NYC Social Programs?

https://www.theamericanconservative...of-nycs-tax-base-leaves-and-never-comes-back/

 

Because I think the vast majority of officers are good people doing an extremely hard job and have to make decisions in a split second. I think if officers violate the laws, they should be 100%, unequivocally held accountable. However, the police unions are the cause for protecting bad officers.

And you think I'm appealing to emotion when you make a statement that officers only kill and maim innocent people.... Please prove that officers only maim and kill innocent people or do I smell some hyperbole in your appeal to emotions?

 

Do you understand what qualified immunity even is and how it protects the police from being paralyzed with BS lawsuits? It does not apply when someone's Constitutional rights are violated. A judge has always been able to rule that immunity does not apply.

Can you actually cite cases where police have acted as you claim, maiming and killing innocent civilians?

What do you think about the current sovereign immunity for the Federal Government which prevents the Biden regime from being sued without their consent?

 

My grandfather was a cop in Chicago in the days of Al Capone and prohibition. I have several friends that are cops, or retired from the profession, so I'm sympathetic to cops.

I did not say that "officers only kill and maim innocent people", YOU said that.

Get your ducks in a row Bearack.

 

BTW, these are what many officers face EVERY day in NY!

 

Extreme hyperbole is generally the hallmark of a liberal.

 

You are quick to claim BS lawsuits, as though all lawsuits are frivolous. You seem biased in this response.

Prior to Earl Warren's sophistry, cops COULD be sued for illegal behavior, and somehow life went on, the world did not end.

QI was a very bad decision by SCOTUS, and its subsequent ramifications have hurt US society.

 

Two things. Why didn't the city remove its qualified immunity? And second, is the city going to provide indemnity insurance, like malpractice insurance to their police? Isn't this like a welfare policy for personal injury attorneys? What could go wrong.

 

What could go right, might be a better question.

What if, as Andrew Napolitano always puts it, police in NYC started policing in a responsible fashion? What if they actually let the presumption of innocence become an operating principle? What if they actually did not practice choke holds for selling untaxed cigarettes as their manual demands?

 

This is something that applies to everyone when they interact with the public. Why should police have qualified immunity? It’s a step in the right direction.

 

Perhaps. I expect police to do the work, within the law. Personal injury lawyers don't really care one way or the other as long as the billing happens.

 

Yes, me too, within the law.

That so many for so many years have acted outside the law is what this measure hopes to correct.

 

I'm not sure I agree with the second sentence. I see this as a way to assist a flagging personal injury market in NYC.. But then, I might be a touch cynical where democratic party priorities are involved...

 

With power comes responsibility. Providing cops immunity from their actions eliminated the latter. Not right. I see nothing wrong with questioning and holding cops accountable for their decisions and actions.

I agree that there is the possibility of frivolous law suits, but we have to trust that the justice system will throw them out.

 

Conscientious and well informed juries could be the factor in which suits would succeed and which would fail. That is the way the US justice system is supposed to operate. The jury is the conscience of the community.

 

You didn't say some or mostly, you said "police have acted with impunity in assaulting, maiming and killing innocent civilians".. That is your exact quote!

 

New York City Ends Qualified Immunity For Police Officers
All in the never ending search by inane politicos for more and improved insanity.

 

I think you are all under the assumption that law enforcement through qualified immunity are exempt from prosecution which is NOT the case. Granted, the police unions protect bad officers.

2016 study of officers charged

 

Utter nonsense. All of government has had some degree of immunity since forever.

 

That's about all that needs to be said, Steve.

When I first heard about this my initial reaction was that I would quit if I worked for the NYPD, and I fully expect many cops in New York will. Let the trained Marxists keep the city safe (and they won't).

This is going to end badly for New York City, and I'm glad it's not my problem...

 

You know, it's been a few years since New York City had a Republican Mayor, but the voters there should seriously consider an alternative to de Blasio. de Blasio is a bad Mayor.