News Organizations Barred from Press Gaggle in Unusual Move

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  1. ScottR2

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    Fake news!
    BBC isn't banned from the White House. They were barred from one small gaggle. It wasn't even a press conference.

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    So?
    CNN only has 14 viewers.

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    And the candidate the democrats put up against him couldn't beat him.
     
  2. Polydectes

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    CNN is a biased liberal tabloid that is angry over trump winning the election. Equal to buzzfeed at this point. If they lay off the aggressions toward trump and just report the facts they'd probably have a place. If I were temp is invite them. Nobody believes a damned word they say outside of their fanboy following.
     
  3. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    And Breitbart is a rabid dog with an ex-CEO as Trump's top advisor. If you don't see the problem with the President only legitimizing agencies that are favorable to the President, you're incredibly myopic.
     
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    Were they banned from the press pool?
     
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    "So what? They're not rounding up everyone, just the Jews!"
     
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    It's a beginning… Check #6.
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  8. Labouroflove

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    They are still free to speak freely, yes?

    When that freedom is impinged, I'll fight. We aren't close.

    Cheers
     
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    Actually, this was aimed at discouraging CNN from speaking freely, because it may lead to them being excluded from more conferences in the future. That sort of government-sponsored discouragement is covered by the First Amendment.
     
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    They don't have to hold conferences at all? Do they?
     
  11. Just_a_Citizen

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    No, they do not.
     
  12. Injeun

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    No they didn't. In fact, they allowed more than they disallowed. At any rate, the choice was Spicer's to make, not CNN's. He made it. Somebody had to be denied. I'm glad it was CNN.....the Trump Sucks channel.
     
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    It's admirable how the lie reflex is now just built in to conservatives; they need not give it a second thought.
     
  14. Polydectes

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    Well, all the media was pretty much favorable of the assclown that just left office. They were pretty much his lap dog. They lose their marbles when a Republican is president. You don't see a problem with that I assume.

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    They are angry because they bet on the wrong horse.
     
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    I'm not a conservative so take your assumptions and fake news somewhere else.
     
  16. ScottR2

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    I don't think CNN has a leg to stand on in this complaint. There's only so much space in an office. Not every media organization can get a spot in the room. CNN is a cable news channel and it's the lowest rated of the cable news channels. Their audience is tiny. There are internet news outlets with much bigger audiences which should get a spot ahead of CNN.

    BBC and New York Times have a right to complain, CNN really doesn't. If CNN went off the air tomorrow only 14 people would notice.
     
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    Come now. The comparison fails. You know it, I won't expound.

    C2
     
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    Have you listened to them lately? They've been all but laughing aloud at Trump on BBC--except yesterday, for some reason, when there seemed to be an abrupt change of tone in one program I listened to.

    NPR has been absolutely horrible--they must have dug into their stockpile of sententious tapes on every divisive identity politics subject they could dredge up, and they have been playing them back to back...and now they're going into Environmental Issue Mode.

    The Elites have also been using the media to do everything they can think of to cast Trump's desire to get long better with Russia as being subversive as well--I sat in an eatery the other night watching the same obese reporter make the exact same baseless, no-fact innuendos over and over again--at least four or five times during my meal. It was sickening and infuriating. If that's the type of garbage they are going to push it doesn't matter what Trump gives them, it will end up being more innuendos and garbage.

    Trump is actually doing the media a favor here--they have not gotten the message their declining sales should have been giving them. People are becoming less and less willing to pay for garbage news. I believe in a strong media, but not a propagandistic, brainwashing one. That is actually worse than nothing...and we still have the internet, until Obama's ploy of giving it away to some faceless "international" holder ruins it.
     
  19. Stuart Wolfe

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    So, let's start with the First Amendment then. Since you yourself do not know what is in it, allow me to refresh your memory:

    So, please address the following:

    How is President Trump Congress?

    How is Congress prohibiting their freedom to speak?

    How is Congress prohibiting the press?

    I look forward to your scholarly views on these matters.
     
  20. Professor Peabody

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    Nothing says a President must help those who constantly deride him. They are free to pick up the news from the gaggle over the AP wire.
     
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    Yes, including those from the left.

    Please feel free to offer comments about what President Trump is actually irritated about, which is the list of fake news items that has been provided in an article within The Federalist:

    • Early November: Spike in Transgender Suicide Rates
    • November 22: The Tri-State Election Hacking Conspiracy Theory
    • December 1: The 27-Cent Foreclosure
    • January 20: Nancy Sinatra’s Complaints about the Inaugural Ball
    • January 20: The Nonexistent Climate Change Website ‘Purge’
    • January 20: The Great MLK Jr. Bust Controversy
    • January 20: Betsy DeVos, Grizzly Fighter
    • January 26: The ‘Resignations’ At the State Department
    • January 27: The Photoshopped Hands Affair
    • January 29: The Reuters Account Hoax
    • January 31: The White House-SCOTUS Twitter Mistake
    • January 31: The Big Travel Ban Lie
    • February 1: POTUS Threatens to Invade Mexico
    • February 2: Easing the Russian Sanctions
    • February 2: Renaming Black History Month
    • February 2: The House of Representatives’ Gun Control Measures

    The article goes in depth into each of these fake news incidents, and concludes by saying the following:

    With this latest move by the President and his administration, perhaps the outlook is a little less dim...

    Yes. Trump is shining a large light on a problem that needs addressing. It's something he seems to be pretty good at...
     
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    I can certainly agree with that. I'll even agree all the news media he banned can be dishonest at times.

    But do you agree that a dishonest president is also enemy of the people? And would you agree that Trump can be dishonest at times?

    Either way, this is just a dangerous path to take and set a bad (to put it mildly) precedent. When democrats take the office back, they could just as easily ban all right-wing media, and round and round we go.
     
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    Your assertion is false.

    For one thing, when an informal press pool is formed, it is almost always from a group or single reporter who has accreditation from a real newspaper or news organization, The pool reporter is then required to share all of his or her notes, observations, pictures, etc. with everyone else.

    This is not what happened here.

    Trump and Bannon cherry picked a collection of right wing bloggers (who as a group are not journalists at all but right wing public relations hacks and ideologues). Then they gave them exclusive access and barred everyone else.

    This is a blatant attempt to bully the press and dictate the message.

    If you think if is acceptable or even good for your leaders to dicate to you without any discussion or review, then you're living in the wrong country.
     
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    This is not true,

    First of all, Fox can turn on their TV and see everything that the President said on any other network. So they had equal access to the information.

    That is not what's going on with Trump.

    And you failed to note two things.

    One, Obama did appear on Fox several times, dispite your attempt to pretend otherwise.

    The other is that few people outside right wing world view Fox as a legitimate news organization, since they have no respect for journalistic standards, routinely market opinion as fact, and lie to their audience regularly. None of this rates censorship. They are merely reflections of the low standard of professional behavior at that organization and the low expectation of their audience. Yellow journalism has been around for a long time. Fox gave it a camera.

    If adhering to journalistic standards was the measure, not one of the groups granted special status by Trump would be in the room.

    This is a straigtforward attempt to bully and intimidate the press.

    And yes, this is exactly what the Nazis did.
     
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    Bannon's influence on Trump is very scary....
     

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