Now we want to set up a propaganda site

http://news.yahoo.com/us-reaches-iranians-warns-iran-government-214551046.html

Clinton also spoke of Iran's efforts to jam Internet sites and track dissident activity on the Internet, part of a policy that she deemed an "electronic curtain." She said Iran's was the most effective government in the world in disrupting Internet and telephone communication.

"It's the 21st century equivalent of the barbed wire and the fences and the dogs that the old Soviet Union used, because they come at it from the same mentality," Clinton said. "They want totalitarian control over what you learn and what you say and even what you think and how you worship and all the things that go to the heart of human dignity and human freedom."

With how our media has become so controlled and the release of information blocked from the public, are these really the allegations against Iran.
We know our government tracks our communications and do everything the federal government is accusing Iran of.
We know we are the bully of the region and use are advanced technology to call as many people as we want while Iran hasn't had a major war since the 80s.
No the focus is to set up a propaganda site for the people of Iran.
I really wish I had (or will have) an opportunity to run for a major office, this country is becoming an out of control monster.



Now they are saying they want to set up

 

Clinton wallows in hypocrisy- like any other US of AIPAC-controlled politician. Iran is the threat because Israel says so. Israel says so because it helps disguise the growing belief that Israel is the threat.

 

Australia is presently Laying a Optical fibre network,I think they are after the "National Internet" "National Intrest" thing!

Dangerous,E-Democracy in Australia is being Challenged ,luckily Australia is only existing in the minds of Nationalists!

Us Global scientific thinkers must now turn to political weapons and the only Scientifically based political Party!

Feel free to join my party we welcome all in the fight against Capitialism !

I went down to support occupy Sydney ,oh in the mean time I ,pulled the plug on the Stock Market!

 

The US Government has neither the ability nor competence to listen in on or track America's communications. The only way they can do that is when they have a specific hint or target. I'd say that eliminates 99.999% of Americans wouldn't you say?

Iran is a real danger, its not some made up imaginary thing. Iran is not some peaceful victim of American imperialism, its a deadly enemy until the day the mullahs lose power.

 

Excuse me how can something that nolonger exists ,like the Nation Iran ,are you sreiously saying the GFC Didn't effect them?

 

Iran is a Post-Modernist Identity Politics [that being religious Identitywith a dash of nationalist women hating child molesters ,not unlike the Catholic Church],in Government.

Globally Intergrated Former National Economy of Iran ,like the former "Greatest Nation on Earth",the unstable Government of Capitialists is tottering ,gee something about being any Nationallly Intrested Political and Economic structure!

They can.t escape History,Economic or Political Laws!

National Governments no longer exist ,its not are failing ,more ,they HAVE ALL FAILED !

Nothing "Made up and Imaginery?" about it!

 

RUBBISH - Modern day Iran has not invaded /militarily attacked any of its neighbours - has no expansion plans . But having seen what America has done to its neighbours - Iraq./Afghanistan, it is wise to take whatever defensive measures it deems necessary against its enemy.

AMERICA IS THE BIGGEST REAL DANGER TO WORLD PEACE.

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Iran is definitely good at censoring its media, but Russia is actually the most effective country at disrupting communications (at least in practice). They basically took out Estonia's government briefly.

Granted, America probably has greater capabilities in disrupting communications -- we just haven't shown our hand yet.

 

Who is the "We" that you refer to in the "Former Greatest Nation on Earth'yes its not USA anymore ,its FGNE,

Yes ,the "we "to which you refer is that the Capitialist ,'we' or the Working Class 'us'as distinct from the Capitialist Class and its government "them"?

And thats not just applicable to the FGNE[USA],thats applicable Globally as the Globally Intergrated Humanity or "we the people'vs Nationally based Capitialist 'them' the enemy of the people!

 

Well, if it helps to clarify, I'm talking about governments, not the people.

 

Tracking in done with giant computers listening for key words and phrases. Call Cuba and say "Kill Obama" a few times and see what happens.

The dems want to have the cell phone number of anyone with a student loan, supposedly to be able to ask them for the money but the real purpose is to call those people to action. The old "Pay up or be at the rally on Tuesday." bit. It is a pretty big pool of like minded people to influence elections and spread political propaganda.

 

Should i watch what I say ,try this .

You stinking grubby ASIO agents that listen in on me all the time ,yes you stupid .i will kill your families if you do anything stupid!

Kids included so find another job!

Not kidding did you pick that up just put it in my file!

Only good spy for Rupert Murdochs government is a dead One!

PS I have had a 30 year history of political surveilence even before the internet was even turned on!

The only way these idiots and human scum can be dangerous is if we don't defend the right to free speech something called Democracy!

CUBA CUBA<REVOLUTION <shoot the president ,blow up Congress !

Its ok they know me in the real world and guess what they run away scared (*)(*)(*)(*)less in real life ,!

September 10 2001 ,when I was in Darwin talking to Marines that were doing Amphibian landing exercises I meet a CIA operative stationed in Australia ,yes fair dinkum and I scared the crap out of him !

The Marines who were of course divided in groups according to rank.

I sat with the Working Class Privates and Corporals of course ,loved me we were having a great drink and talk.

I think I was the first openly Communist human they had ever meet,unfortunately our night was interuppted by the SP MP's on loud hailers calling all US military personel to immediately return to station.

This left me and the CIA bloke alone together and the fuk did he run away and fast!

 

Nothing against dwelling in a little paranoia here and there. But somehow I have a feeling that in the long run governments of all countries - except maybe North Korea, the only country not connected to the WWW yet - may not have a real chance against those who really seem to control the internet: geeks such as these:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,791370,00.html

 

Could you explain ,when Governments were not related to Human and only Human actions ie;Voting for instance ,real people vote for Governments,real people form and maintain political party's [including the tea party,they are facistically diseased intellectually and politically people but people none the less,middle class wankers are people to]!

It may be over simplifying but could you refer me to the govenment of ,Fish or dogs or cats for instance ?

Seems to me only Humans form Governments am i wrong?

 

Phil, what's your point?

 

Iran is a danger to who?
Why are they a danger?

You would believe whatever your government tells you is a danger.

If they told you that Iceland was part of the AXIS of EVIL.. you would believe it.

 

It is my understanding that cyber attacks on US critical infrastructures usually come from China, but other nations may be experimenting with such too. There's probably a site somewhere where one can have a look at this.

 

Really? So what is this danger that Iran poses to America?

 

I am Australian, and the way I sometimes view America is a country with "double standards". This is because I see it as wanting to eliminate every threat against it but be seen as a threat to other nations. This is just my viewpoint, and am willing to change it if convinced to. I mean no offense.

 

The US has never acted to eliminate threats. It knows that there is no threat to the US. All the wars it starts are to make huge profits for the MIC.

 

Yes, that too.

 

Its ok they know me in the real world and guess what they run away scared (*)(*)(*)(*)less in real life ,!

You're so scary, why not have lunch in Austin, Texas. We can talk about the successful communist countries. No, there isn't one. I know; we can talk about what went wrong and why the US was able to break Russia during the Cold War.

Iran is a danger to the whole world. Iran is controlled by people who think that if the ignite a global conflict it will end with them in paradise and the world under the authority of their savior. When Iran get's a nuclear weapon they will use it against the US, Israel and Europe. That will spark a civil war in Iran that will end the power of the islamoiests in Iran but it will not clean up the damage caused by their weapons. Islam will shrink back into the deserts of Afghanistan for a hundred years.

But why go there in the first place? We can take the nukes out with one well placed strike from one of our ICBM submarines. Armed with kinetic energy weapons the ICMBs would be impossible to stop and the resulting damage would be devastating. Nothing left but radiation from the nuclear weapons that Iran is working on.

 

Comedy gold. You are not controlled and brainwashed much at all.. .are you?

None of the leaders in Iran are religious. Like all leaders they use whatever tools are easiest to control their people. Religion has always been a good one. In the US they use fear and hatred of imaginary enemies and have total control of the unfree media. They also make sure that the vast majority of Americans are kept poor and stupid.
Now then.. logistically can you explain how Iran could launch a Nuclear weapon to Europe.. let alone the thousands of miles to the US?

Utterly amazing that someone could be so gullible as to think that a weak country like Iran would dare threaten any European nation or the states.

Now you really must try and think for yourself. Stop believing what you are fed by your propaganda and lying media.

Iran is fine. It is no threat to anyone. The US and Israel are the only warmongerers in the region

 

Oh where do I start ,lets see oh yes ,why do you advance the politics of Joseph Stalin's "Socialism in a single Country'and try and say that Communists can be Nationalists which they cannot ever be !

As far as your posts reguarding the genocide of the Iranian people with Nuclear Fallout being your goal!

I suspect you attend Church and believe in God?

Andre Brevik is your pinup hero!

And you are about 12years old!

 

Their people might get illegal satellite dishes and see a "Liberal" biased media, and never see or understand why I said this:

"If you wanted to keep Saddam in power to suppress the scary Shiites, you have probably exceeded the limits and violated some verse of the Koran. Have a nice day!" (Me, 08-11-05, 01:00 PM)

http://www.linktv.org/programs/the_dish

They might think "AXIS of EVIL" was all Bush:

February 17, 1998: “While speaking at the Pentagon on February 17, 1998, President Bill Clinton warned of the ‘reckless acts of outlaw nations and an unholy axis of terrorists, drug traffickers and organized international criminals.’ These ‘predators of the twenty-first century,’ he said ‘will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq.’“ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Fox http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/

Propaganda of a War for Oil, when containment of Oil for Food was more a War for Oil than Operation Iraqi Freedom, was a threat to us in returning to the very policy that caused 9/11; when I could call up on 9/11 an old topic in which I compared the sanctions to the Treaty of Versailles, and said I feared a Hitler would rise up to attack us, and the "liberals" to a man said Saddam was contained and the sanctions were working, it was clear the propaganda machine was working; should those who believe in the lukewarm "liberal" arts of war decide to "contain" Iran until their leaders fall away into the dustbin of history, should either people Iranian or American be ignorant that is always a threat.

The "liberals" who could never accept the word "Congress" in the First Amendment, and the District of Columbia as not being a State for a Reason, and the hypocrisy of States Rights restricting the Digambara from going to a little league game while they defend the porn of MoHamMad fracking a mythical donkey on the King of the Hill abomination on the Temple Mount, cannot understand the difference between preserving a cultural state and freedom of the press with regard to politics. The "liberal" hypocrite cannot comprehend that a Gay State must restrict Religion, and must have the right to prohibit the press that they are an abomination before the Lord, just as religion must have equal rights to preserve their cultural State.

Those Iranians who want bad channels that corrupt the youth with immoral images, what right have we to say that porn is freedom of speech?

The danger that Iran poses to America is only that their people have no real enfranchisement to choose their cultural State, to choose what channels and preaching they deem are bad to preserving their preferred cultural State.

Some preferred cultural states are going to be offensive to others, but the very act of enfranchisement to choose imbues a moral right of respecting the rights of other Nation/States to exist free from intimidation.

"They want totalitarian control over what you learn and what you say and even what you think and how you worship and all the things that go to the heart of human dignity and human freedom." (Hillary Clinton)

"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." (Proverbs 22:6)

I am sure the Iranians who want to control understand that. I am not so sure "Liberals" who forbid my Public School English Teacher in the 6th grade from writing any proverb on the blackboard, and who (Hillary) in an Africa conference on Democracy consider private schools to be an impediment to "competent citizens," understand how to fight their totalitarian control so as not to abuse the sentiment expressed in Proverbs.

The lack of the right to choose, the lack of enfranchisement, is the only real danger Iran poses.