NRA RIP

If it will not have a serious impact alone, it will not have a serious impact when combined with other measures.

 

And yet no individual can coherently explain how the notion of "public safety" is best served through firearm-related restrictions in a desperate attempt to prevent their acquisition by the wrong individuals, yet not served by simply not releasing these wrong individuals back into society where they pose the greatest risk of harm to the public at large.

If the position of "public safety" can be used to justify various firearm-related restrictions, it can equally be used to justify various criminal acts carrying a mandatory life sentence so the offender can never be released again.

 

FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html

Wyden blasts FEC Republicans for blocking probe into NRA over possible Russia donations
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ans-for-blocking-probe-into-nra-over-possible

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) condemned Republicans on the Federal Election Commission (FEC) after they voted on Friday to block an in-depth investigation into allegations that Russians illegally donated to the National Rifle Association (NRA) in an effort to benefit President Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.

"A foreign adversary interfered in the 2016 presidential election and the response from Republicans at every level, whether it be President Trump, congressional Republicans, or now the Republican appointees on the Federal Election Commission, has been to bury their heads in the sand or actively obstruct getting to the bottom of what happened," Wyden said in a written statement provided to Newsweek.

 

How long before "Fancy Pants" LaP is sharing a jail cell with Rooskie spy and NRA operative Butina?

"She's sure got the hots fer us bigly!"​

 

Further shameless fleecing of members by Fancy Pants has been exposed:

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The pictures show obviously well trained NRA marksmen. Notice their trigger fingers. Good choice of a photo for the NRA. A big thumbs up.

 

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Crème de la Crème. Stalwart, elite gun fondlers every one!

Meanwhile, "Fansy Pants" LaP's sleazy scam continues to self-destruct:

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The real issue is that even in states which have universal background checks it still relies on people to physically enter things into a federal database. There are a number of shootings over the last several years that only happened because someone didn't do their job. Someone didn't enter a person's criminal record, or mental health records into the database. We need to start punishing government clerks whose failure to do their jobs leads to these tragedies. If you are too stupid to do your ****ing job, you don't deserve the job.

And we are talking about some of the more well known shooting. The Parkland shooter, Nikolas Cruz only was able to buy his gun because an incompetant moron in Florida put his mental health history under the wrong agency, and the federal clerks doing his background checks couldn't find the records. That's literally the ONLY reason Parkland happened. He wouldn't have been allowed to buy the guns otherwise.

 

Hillary wins by a landslide!

 

Indeed.

Sensible laws demand conscientious enforcement.

As a matter of public safety, a lax attitude in enforcing the law equates to permissiveness in the law.

 

If you are desperate for a diversion, that one seems to actually work for some.

 

Then ultimately there is no logical sense in attempting to implement new firearm-related restrictions, until it is ensured the ones who are running, operating, and maintaining the current system, are not being lax in their duties.

 

But very well trained. Obviously by the NRA.

 

No diversion, just making jokes on a joke thread.

 

Americans confronting the obscene level of firearm carnage in America may amuse you, but you may actually see Turtle McConnell, intimidated by the US electorate, begrudgingly getting off the pot to which the disgraced "Fancy Pants" LaP had super-glued him.

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•Heart disease: 647,457
•Cancer: 599,108
•Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
•Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
•Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
•Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
•Diabetes: 83,564
•Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
•Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
•Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm

There are a lot more deaths from other causes to worry about bully's fear of getting shot while pushing people around on the street. Three times as many people die in car accidents than murdered with guns. If guns make you skeered, then leave other people alone.

 

Indeed. The thousand natural shocks that flesh is heir to beset biological entities everywhere, even in advanced nations with a far, far lower incidence of firearm fatalities than the U.S.

Automotive activity would be far more lethal were permissiveness to prevail over sensible regulation as well.

 

The vast majority of firearm deaths are suicides, would it make you FEEL better if they jumped out of windows?

 

What "obscene level of firearm carnage" is being referred to on the part of yourself?

 

If you are in denial of the extraordinary level of firearm fatalities in the US compared to all advanced nations, my citing it to you would be as ineffectual as my noting the democratic will of the American people that it must be addressed by elected representatives.

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Why does it matter if certain individuals chose to utilize a firearm for the purpose of ending their own existence in a manner they saw fit?

 

As noted, if it is one's position that a troubled 14-year-old should have ready access to a gun in his home if he happens to have a bad day, then that is one argument for ubiquitous, unregulated firearms.

(This thread's focus is the NRA's current scandals and various litigations, and how the scam that has had a stranglehold on all sensible regulation is rendering itself impotent, thus enhancing the public's right to have the democratic will respected by their politicians.)

 

Again, why does the method of suicide make any difference? Why does the implement utilized matter?

And yet that right is ignored every single day, as elected officials care more about their continued employment than their well being of their voting constituents. The individual members of the community are not more than commodities, no different than a pack of batteries available in a convenience store. They hold no value to anyone unless they can be exploited for personal gain.

 

If one takes the position that a troubled 14-year-old should be provided with easy access to firearms because it is as likely that, on the spur of the moment, he will find other means as efficient in killing himself, there is no reason to imagine that is the case.

See https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/firearm-availability-suicide.html

https://everytownresearch.org/firearm-suicide/​

The extent that politicians may ignore the democratic will is not an argument in favor of politicians ignoring the democratic will.

 

Excuses to perpetuate the horrific level of firearm fatalities in the US abound and precise definitions in any legislation are essential, of course, but progress, however slow, is inevitable.

The scandals ravaging the big, political lobby are taking their toll: