NRA saved lives in Texas

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Love to hear your explanation of why gun registration would be unconstitutional. Will let " facist" pass since you probably just use it without actual understanding of what it means.
     
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    N.Y.C. Registration of Semi Automatic rifles deemed "Assault weapons" then possession was banned and a grace period given to transfer or sell them legally to a gun store etc....
     
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    Registration still solves nothing.

    Or please explain how it does, in Your own words and experience please.

    Do tell, thrill us with your acumen.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Read the plan.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well assuming you can actually provide evidence that might qualify although it was certainly not confiscation.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Quit with the BS. I shared the stated intent of he DEMs. Nothing else is needed and you can’t prove a compelling justification for registration.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sorry looked it up and owners were required to register their assault weapons or sell them legally. No registration followed by confiscation was involved. My record is still 100% that no obe has bern able to find registration followed by confiscation in the United States.

    https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/new-york/
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that some groups that want to confiscate guns support registration is more than enough of a reason to oppose it. You are anti gun. you support registration, that alone is sound grounds to oppose it
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    what part of the constitution, even the expanded commerce clause, gives the federal government the power to demand registration of guns that are currently owned

    knock yourself out
     
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    No you didn't but nice try. And read my plan and tell me why it won't work to reduce gun violence.

    And of course I can't prove it will work because it has never been tried in the US. But on the other hand nobody has yet been able to prove any negatives for registration despite endless attempts.
     
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    your argument is faulty. the issue is not how bad registration is for gun owners we gun owners oppose it. the issue is what good will it do for gun owners and you have completely failed to establish any benefit for registration. You also completely ignore that every gun banning group wants registration,
     
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    No the issue is what good universal registration could do for society. But I am curious as to which groups want to ban all guns as part of the official position of the organization. Give us a list. And individuals saying silly things don't count.
     
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    Nope sorry. Your said it is prohibited by the Constitution. You make the statement you prove it. Nice try though!
     
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    Official position and ultimate goals are two different things. We understand the difference and know the lies. Solved it for you.
     
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    No, you are a Liar, twisting the truth.

    It was never Register or sell off firearms,
    And within N.Y.C. purchase of any firearm rifle or shotgun or handgun is already registered with the license division.

    They wanted the other 5% they figured were not registered.

    In N.Y.C. and you are told to register firearms called "Assault weapons"
    then are told those same now Registered Assault weapons are illegal and a time frame to sell them off or face charges, arrest, and the guns will be confiscated anyway, Arrests and Criminal charges brought, it is still Defacto confiscation, you just avoid any Legal hassles by selling or transferring them before you go to prison etc....

    Why be obtuse ? Is it deliberate ?
     
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    sure you do. but there are plenty of gun owners who don't want other people owning firearms but this sounds like the Ben and Jerry seminar strategy. Those two lefties told anti Bush voters to always pretend they voted for Bush before whining about W. "I voted for Bush but his tax cuts suck" etc

    I don't believe you are a gun owner unless you are a Democratic Party bodyguard or some government employee who opposes private citizens owning guns Or worse yet, you're an appeaser. the people who think if they suck up to the gun banners, those gun banners won't take THEIR guns. the fact is, registration does NOTHING POSITIVE FOR GUN OWNERS and is way too dangerous and unconstitutional for any SANE gun owner to support. BTW who did you vote for in the 2016 election?
     
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    yep, he misstated what happened. People registered them and later those same weapons were declared contraband and the registration lists were used to notify the owners that if they didn't get rid of the weapons the weapons would be seized
     
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    I don't give a darn what a pathetic like yourself believes. And still waiting for your imaginary list of groups that want to ban all guns.
     
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    You mean he made stuff up without any evidence or thought which is a example you shouldn't be following.
     
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    OH you mean your paranoia versus facts. Got it. Sad.
     
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    The Democrat party pushed the clinton gun ban reinstatement. Diane Feinstein, one of the senior senators of the Democrat party supports it. You can easily look up the fact that the only sponsors of the Clinton gun ban renewal were democrats

    the VPC wants to ban all sorts of guns

    The Brady group claimed it didn't support gun bans but Sarah Brady supported the Clinton gun ban

    https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-endorsements


    Endorsements for the
    Assault Weapons Ban of 2013

    Law Enforcement
    • International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators
    • International Association of Chiefs of Police
    • Major Cities Chiefs Association
    • National Association of Women Law Enforcement Executives
    • National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence
    • National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives
    • Police Executive Research Forum
    • Police Foundation
    • Women in Federal Law Enforcement
    • Chaska, Minn., Police Chief Scott Knight, former chairman of the Firearms Committee, International Association of Chiefs of Police
    • Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca
    • Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck
    • San Diego Police Chief Bill Lansdowne
    Gun safety
    • Arizonans for Gun Safety
    • Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
    • Ceasefire Oregon
    • Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
    • Hoosiers Concerned About Gun Violence
    • Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence
    • Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
    • Mayors Against Illegal Guns
    • Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence
    • One Million Moms for Gun Control
    • Protect Minnesota
    • Stopourshootings.org
    • Violence Policy Center
    • Washington CeaseFire
    • Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort
    • Women Against Gun Violence
     
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    you are not telling the truth. He is absolutely right.
     
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    lets see you handle the fact that there are dozens of groups that want to ban guns.
     
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    I made up nothing, I lived in NYC at the time it happened, I saw it happen.
     
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    oh now you are changing the goal posts. its "all guns now" rather than banning guns

    the fact is-gun banners work like cancer. they incrementally ban guns because if they tried to ban all guns they would have no power and if they tried it, they'd probably be killed.
     

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