Nuclear is better than coal, natural gas. 'Green' energies not so green.

Nuclear/atomic power did have setbacks in Germany, Italy and Switzerland after Fukushima. Patrick A. Moore in a TV interview criticized what Greenpeace calls a victory after Germany decided in 2011 to phase out nuclear. Germany is building many coal plants to replace their nuclear powerplants and importing gas from Russia. Germany will be getting dirtier air from their coal plants, but Greenpeace called it a victory. Austria in 1978 canceled it's nuclear projects with Stop Zwentendorf and Austria has pollution. China has built so many coal plants that many of their cities have bad air pollution. We need to expand nuclear/atomic energy & we need focus on smaller reactors which can be put underground. Nuclear/atomic energy has advanced greatly since Chernobyl-they already use less Uranium which lasts longer & more energy. Thorium needs to be perfect. Physicist Kirk F. Sorensen is working to perfect the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor. In places which can get 100% of it's energy from hydroelectric dams and geothermal, that must also be used.

Windmills and solar (renewable energies) are old ideas, but as known they require more land, more materials and give less energy. Yes, wind and solar energies does have a role-renewable energies are again not green as it's based on how much sun and wind you get and when renewables don't give enough, then coal as Germany does is used. Japan has been importing natural gas for energy since Fukushima-only 2 reactors are running in Japan. Smart energy policy requires we use nuclear/atomic energy, hydroelectric and geothermal prudently.

 

IMO we are over our heads with nuke power, "if it can go wrong it will go wrong".

 

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-Modelling-modules-coordinates-construction-3110131.html

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-Largest-European-Iter-contract-so-far-0111134.html

 

I've always known she's hot.

Have to agree. Nuclear is better than just about any other source. But Fusion is still much better than Fission

 

Dingo, overpopulation is not happening, because we are running below Replacement population Value. Yes, we have more people because of medical advances which cause people to live longer. But birthrates by Replacement Population Value has gone down. When you don’t have enough people, then you don’t have enough engineers, workers, accountants and so on. We need more replacement population. Nations such as Germany, Russia, Japan are giving incentives for women to have more children to meet replacement population value. China is reconsidering it’s 1 child per family policy because when you don’t have enough people, you don’t have enough who workers and not enough taxes.

Patrick A. Moore in a TV interview criticized what Greenpeace calls a victory after Germany decided in 2011 to phase out nuclear. Germany is building many coal plants to replace their nuclear powerplants and importing gas from Russia. Germany will be getting dirtier air from their coal plants, but Greenpeace called it a victory. Austria in 1978 canceled it's nuclear projects with Stop Zwentendorf and Austria has pollution. China has built so many coal plants that many of their cities have bad air pollution.

We need to expand nuclear/atomic energy & we need focus on smaller reactors which can be put underground. Nuclear/atomic energy has advanced greatly since Chernobyl-they already use less Uranium which lasts longer & more energy. Thorium needs to be perfect. Physicist Kirk F. Sorensen is working to perfect the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor. In places which can get 100% of it's energy from hydroelectric dams and geothermal, that must also be used.

Windmills and solar (renewable energies) are old ideas, but as known they require more land, more materials and give less energy. Yes, wind and solar energies does have a role-renewable energies are again not green as it's based on how much sun and wind you get and when renewables don't give enough, then coal as Germany does is used. Japan has been importing natural gas for energy since Fukushima-only 2 reactors are running in Japan. Smart energy policy requires we use nuclear/atomic energy, hydroelectric and geothermal prudently.

 

Let's see we are increasing by roughly 200,000 every day and even with the declining rate of increase the UN estimates at least 9 billion humans by 2050.

Overpopulation is happening and from what I can see if addressing that isn't factored in no technology is going to save us. Perhaps part of the reason for public indifference is intuitively the public knows that for all the this or that solutions being offered by the "technical experts", they are blind to the elephant in the room.

 

More people because of medical advances which cause people to live longer. But birthrates by Replacement Population Value has gone down. When you don’t have enough people, then you don’t have enough engineers, workers, accountants and so on. We need more replacement population in order to run the nuclear powerplants, hydroelectric dams and have engineers born who can do this. Nations such as Germany, Russia, Japan are giving incentives for women to have more children to meet replacement population value. China is reconsidering it’s 1 child per family policy because when you don’t have enough people, you don’t have enough who workers and not enough taxes. When you have replacement population and higher, then you have more future engineers, physicists who can creatively think of advances in nuclear energy. Also more wildlife biologists who will help in protecting wildlife. Nuclear powerplants such as Turkey Point (mentioned earlier) has worked to protect American crocodile in Florida. Replacement population has more of these people born. Rest is copy/paste which repeats what has been said.

Patrick A. Moore in a TV interview criticized what Greenpeace calls a victory after Germany decided in 2011 to phase out nuclear. Germany is building many coal plants to replace their nuclear powerplants and importing gas from Russia. Germany will be getting dirtier air from their coal plants, but Greenpeace called it a victory. Austria in 1978 canceled it's nuclear projects with Stop Zwentendorf and Austria has pollution. China has built so many coal plants that many of their cities have bad air pollution.

We need to expand nuclear/atomic energy & we need focus on smaller reactors which can be put underground. Nuclear/atomic energy has advanced greatly since Chernobyl-they already use less Uranium which lasts longer & more energy. Thorium needs to be perfect. Physicist Kirk F. Sorensen is working to perfect the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor. In places which can get 100% of it's energy from hydroelectric dams and geothermal, that must also be used.

Windmills and solar (renewable energies) are old ideas, but as known they require more land, more materials and give less energy. Yes, wind and solar energies does have a role-renewable energies are again not green as it's based on how much sun and wind you get and when renewables don't give enough, then coal as Germany does is used. Japan has been importing natural gas for energy since Fukushima-only 2 reactors are running in Japan. Smart energy policy requires we use nuclear/atomic energy, hydroelectric and geothermal prudently.

 

You can repeat yourself to doomsday my friend but a rationale wedded to a diversion does not replace a fact.

My point stands. Nuclear, solar, hydro or whatever is just a road to nowhere until you deal with the issue of overpopulation. The numbers are real and no amount of specifics brush away the broader fact. Just try imagining producing enough new nuclear power to cover the 200,000 new folks a day much less the 7 billion + other folks. I know from long experience this will have no effect on you. People end up in their own narrow cul-de-sacs and won't budge. Recently I explained to some folks that low level nuclear radiation was over-rated as a danger according to studies that have been done. All three branded me a nuclear fanatic and went into a screaming rage when I cast doubt on their nuclear radiation saint Helen Caldicott.

I have no axe to grind. I state what is obvious to me and folks can take it or leave it.

 

Whether overpopulation is happening or not strongly depends on what region we are talking about. For some countries overpopulation is definitely going to happen, some are stagnant, and some are even going to suffer from lack of young people.

 

The earth system doesn't really care about national borders or what politics declares is enough or not enough folks in any particular region. By hook or by crook the more overpopulated areas will spread out. The US is growing largely due to illegal immigrants and their children. I don't blame them, just acknowledge the fact.

Running away from the continued growth on spaceship earth by declaring some cubby hole is underpopulated is denial, sticking your head in the sand. Pollution and resource depletion and stress generated wmds have no borders. And all have overpopulation as a principle component. Perhaps one of the least reported factor associated with the conflicts in the ME unless you actually live there is the lack of potable water. Along with overpopulation you have AGW generated drought.

 

I think more and more as we look at conflicts we are going to need this kind of full spectrum "mosaic" approach.
http://www.interaction.org/blog/syria-and-climate-change-–-framing-relationship

 

I dont agree. Effects of overpopulation are fairly localised and assuming a reasonably well enforced immigration policy, whether some countries are overpopulated or not is of no consequence for the US or other developed nations. Contrary to popular belief, overpopulated regions dont wage expansionist wars or spread out, as that requires resources and organisation which are very limited there. They mostly suffer in silence. Just look at todays Africa, thats a prototype of an overpopulated region.

 

Refugees can be very resourceful. We have according to official estimates about 11 million undocumented residents in the US. Part of the reason is it serves a lot of short term economic interests ie cheap workers. The US is a lot more diverse country than when I was young and that appears to be also true of most European countries. Foreign marriage to Americans, births in this country and foreigners rendering service to this country are also mechanisms for legal citizenship.

 

Overpopulated nations such as those in Africa also have high death rates and infant mortality because they have high poverty, high illiteracy and not enough resources/food. But again, we need replacement population. When you don't have replacement population, you don't have enough workers. Know it's repeat. When you have replacement population and higher, then you have more future engineers, physicists who can creatively think of advances in nuclear energy. Also more wildlife biologists who will help in protecting wildlife. Nuclear powerplants such as Turkey Point (mentioned earlier) has worked to protect American crocodile in Florida. Replacement population has more of these people born. Rest is copy/paste which repeats what has been said.

Patrick A. Moore in a TV interview criticized what Greenpeace calls a victory after Germany decided in 2011 to phase out nuclear. Germany is building many coal plants to replace their nuclear powerplants and importing gas from Russia. Germany will be getting dirtier air from their coal plants, but Greenpeace called it a victory. Austria in 1978 canceled it's nuclear projects with Stop Zwentendorf and Austria has pollution. China has built so many coal plants that many of their cities have bad air pollution.

We need to expand nuclear/atomic energy & we need focus on smaller reactors which can be put underground. Nuclear/atomic energy has advanced greatly since Chernobyl-they already use less Uranium which lasts longer & more energy. Thorium needs to be perfect. Physicist Kirk F. Sorensen is working to perfect the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor. In places which can get 100% of it's energy from hydroelectric dams and geothermal, that must also be used.

Windmills and solar (renewable energies) are old ideas, but as known they require more land, more materials and give less energy. Yes, wind and solar energies does have a role-renewable energies are again not green as it's based on how much sun and wind you get and when renewables don't give enough, then coal as Germany does is used. Japan has been importing natural gas for energy since Fukushima-only 2 reactors are running in Japan. Smart energy policy requires we use nuclear/atomic energy, hydroelectric and geothermal prudently.

 

Copy and paste to your heart's content. The numbers don't lie nor do the projections to our endless carbon future, given our continued population direction. The idea we are going to produce more mitigaters is one I have heard before. The more the merrier I guess. By the time we reach 10 billion we should be home free with all that extra brilliance.

As I indicated before when you try to address population matters you hit a wall and folks scatter to their various ideological cul-de-sacs.

Well I guess hominids had a nice little run. The last ones standing are apparently going to follow the course of their predecessors, but with a more spectacular and varied take down.

 

So you're replacing thé coal-fired plants with the small modular reactors with similar kW output to the coal plants they replace, and can be transported on site in one pièce, the reactor chamber at least. But why the thorium reactors were left behind? You can Forget about the fusion of course since it operates at much botter températures so that nothing solid could contain it, and the magnetic Fields to hold in plasma are much too unstable.

 

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-Construction-underway-of-second-Vogtle-AP1000-2211134.html