NYPD arrests over 100 protesters at NYU, clears out anti-Israel encampment on campus

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Is it really 'just like McCarthyism':
     
  2. Steve N

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    I think this bill is justified.

    Bipartisan bill would create "antisemitism monitors" at colleges

    A pro-Israel House Democrat and Republican plan to introduce legislation creating federally sanctioned "antisemitism monitors" for select college campuses.

    Why it matters: It's the first bill introduced in Congress as a direct response to the pro-Palestinian protests that have rocked Columbia University and other colleges in recent days.

    Driving the news: Reps. Ritchie Torres (D-N.Y.) and Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) are introducing the College Oversight and Legal Updates Mandating Bias Investigations and Accountability Act – or COLUMBIA Act.

    • The bill would allow the Department of Education to send a "third-party antisemitism monitor" to any college that receives federal funding — and to revoke that funding for colleges that don't comply.
    • The monitor, paid for by the school, would be charged with releasing a public, quarterly report evaluating "the progress that a college or university has made toward combating antisemitism."
    https://www.axios.com/2024/04/26/antisemitism-monitor-colleges-columbia-israel
     
  3. Steve N

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    most of the twits protesting Israel and spewing neo-nazi or jihadist anti semitic nonsense wouldn't last a day if they ended up in some fundi-muslim country.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Russia isn't a US ally. most of the people whining about Israel hate the USA too
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    The next time anybody asks why folks like me won't support student loan debt "forgiveness" feel free to point to situations like this. I've been sitting here watching this nonsense in various colleges across the country for the past few hours via live stream. One school said they were cancelling class for the rest of the year and going to remote learning because the protestors have taken over the place.

    So let me get this straight. These kids go to college, a huge chunk of which pursuing a degree in something completely stupid, take out a loan they can't afford, decide to throw a fit about a geopolitical issue on the other side of the world, get class cancelled so they don't even have to attend anymore this year, and I'm supposed to support paying for their college for them?

    And the colleges by and large support this nonsense. Many professors are out there running around with these kids in their little bullhorns. Some will say well they are young adults it's healthy for them to be able to express themselves we shouldn't hinder that. Yeah right, these are entitled little brats who society is enabling to throw temper tantrums every time they don't get their way and I will absolutely never support anything resembling free higher education or student loan debt forgiveness until we as a society and the colleges start cracking down on this sort of nonsense.
     
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    Did the colleges open their eyes to the decades of Hamas attacking them then hiding behind their citizens? The same citizens I might need to remind you are complicit in the murder of hostages being they captured escaped hostages and took them back to their government. The same citizens that never raised a single hand to the years of rockets, bombs, and balloon bombs that dropped randomly on citizens. Where were their protests and eyes wide open for that? How many times can you poke a bear before you get bit? I say let Israel continue on. They brought this on themselves.
     
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    Brats… no better word. And Biden spoils them like a rich parent to direct their hate at anyone but him. It’s absolutely disgusting.
     
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    Well a whole lot of them seem to be pretty mad at Biden right now too which is just icing on the cake. I'm watching a few live streams from various campuses at the moment, the half the kids don't even know what they're chanting they're just sort of mumbling through it and it's hilarious. Someone interviewed a girl and she literally said she had no idea what she was even protesting about but she was just out there because everyone else was so she felt it was for a good cause. She asked her friend what it was about and she didn't know either. They really are just children. One girl was filming and bragging to the cops how they "stopped" the cops from breaking through their linked arm "barrier" earlier because "together we can't be defeated when standing on the right side of history" lol.

    It's seriously no different than when grown men play fight with their kids or wives and let them "win" because it makes them happy.
     
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    Most people recognize that Hamas came into existence due to Israeli brutality. Does that excuse what they did on October 7th? Of course not. But the fact is, Israeli brutality caused radicals like Hamas to come into existence. And October 7th certainly does not justify the monstrous actions Israel has taken since October 7th. Tens of thousands of innocents dead. And all Israel has accomplished is to create more suffering, causing MORE radicals to be made. The actions of the IDF has made ISrael less safe, not more so, and has damned another generation of Israeli youth to the threat of extremist violence.

    Why is it that you expect Palestinians to help the butchers who are slaughtering them? That makes no sense to me. If I were Palestinian, I would likely be fighting the IDF to the bitter end, not helping them. Utterly bizarre.

    People often complain about how Hamas hides its operations in civilian centers. How else would they stand a chance of countering the IDF? They certainly would lose in a head on conventional fight. They use the tactics guerillas have always used, hiding among the local population.

    That being said, I do not support the violence Hamas inflicts, any more than I support the violence the IDF commits. But I understand why they do it. Otherwise they would simply be cut down, and the Palestinians would be no better off than they were before, simply treated like second class citizens and animals ground beneath the boots of the IDF and Israeli settlers.

    As much as I despise the violent tactics being used by both sides, the Palestinian cause (not the violence of Hamas) is the just one, and the college students are right to support them.
     
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    So taking back hostages of Oct 7th is in your mind helping Israel? Lmao I would think it would help the Palestinians more so than Israel. But hey, keep playing that victim card while they continue to hold hostages they took during a war crime, and continue making war crimes by holding hostages. Don’t like it when the gloves come off then you should have kept yours on.

    ever since Israel regained their state Palestinians have targeted them.
     
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  12. Josh77

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    War crime? How can you even even talk about war crimes with the atrocities the IDF has committed against the Palestinians in Gaza? Yes, it is terrible that hostages were taken, but that does not even begin to compare to the hell that the Palestinians are going through, Palestinians who had NOTHING to do with what Hamas did, any more than the average Israeli has to do with the death being rained down on the Palestinians. One crime does not justify the other.
    The Palestinian civilians did not "take the gloves off". That is like saying Americans deserve to die when our government does a drone strike that wipes out a wedding. Of course civilians are not justified in being killed.
     
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    Perhaps all the Palestinians should do what you would do - fight to the bitter end. If they don't, then they apparently don't care much about their "country"? I mean, you seem to care more about Palestine than the Palestinians themselves.
     
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    Many have, have they not? Not everyone is able to. family members are sick, injured, dying, starving. Children are being slaughtered. And obviously, many ARE fighting. Of course, any that do fight are labeled as extremist terrorists. Kind of a catch 22, isn't it? If they fight, they are labeled terrorist. If they don't fight, they are bombed, shot, tortured, and starved anyway, though they are doing their damnedest to keep their families alive and help out those around them.

    Right now they are screwed, with no clear way to best counter what the IDF is doing to them. I say I would fight, because my entire adult life up until recently after retiring has been training and fighting as an infantryman in our army. Not everyone has that experience or is capable of doing that.
     
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    Name one attack done by Hamas (the government of Gaza) to Israel that wasn’t a war crime.

    Hamas wants the fight and they got it. Now they want know nothing kids to cry in the streets for them. Congrats you win the Hamas medal
     
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    Half of the people arrested here in the Texas college weren't students.
     
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    Why would they be rolling in their graves when Israel didn't even exist during WWII?
     
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    Uh huh. You seem completely incapable of separating Palestinians from Hamas. Hell you probably lump all Muslims in with extremists, the way some people lump all Jews in with hard core Zionists.

    Try seeing people as individuals rather than giving them blanket labels.
     
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    Great question.
    I wondered about that myself...:flagus:
     
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    Do you have articles that prove that?
     
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    and still, I hope that we make all the people who took money from the government for their own personal school loans pay it back with interest lost. These kids don’t deserve a dang thing. One president can take away a contract so another can reinstate it.
     
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    Couple side notes that interest me, first off, why is it the right leaning media’s focus, and that of GOP politicians, is overwhelmingly focused on Ivy League schools when the same is occurring across the country? Have seen Williams or Stefanik flying off to Texas or Florida for photo ops or calling for presidents of other schools to resign

    And second, if you are describing demonstrating students as “brats,” “ungrateful punks, and alike, you know you are a Boomer
     
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    these protesters are why Palestinian leadership places their women and children in harms way. Their actions will lead to more of what they are protesting against.
     
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