Obama backs reparations for the first time and slams ‘politics of white resistance’

I do love camping in national parks, but do not need to factor that in to reach 50%+ Can you help rahl with the math?

 

Why do you keep asking me questions I've already answered?

 

The question you are dodging is: what percentage have we reached so far?

 

On the surface, I'm against none of that... I just wouldn't label it reparations... I would go with something positive and disconnect it from a slavery reference...

 

You noticed that too??

Him - What color is the sun?
Us - Yellow
Him - Why can't you answer a simple question?

It never ends...

 

Directly answering your questions isn't dodging. You seem confused. I've already answered your question.

 

As free, independent American citizens, we all have the ability to respect and abide by the law, or break the law, and if anyone breaks the law, they can EXPECT to be imprisoned, regardless of 'color'.

We all have the ability to choose to go to college, or just schlep along through life with a 'high school diploma'. And, for the 1,000th time, -- you earn what you are WORTH in a free-market, capitalist economy, and that's the only kind we have had from the first day of our existence as an independent nation!

People can be born rich, or into poverty -- but regardless of background circumstances, they have the ability to choose to make successes of their lives, or fall by the wayside. They have the ability to choose to buy houses if they wish, or rent, or get government-subsidized public housing for the rest of their lives.

There are hundreds of different reasons why people have different "life expectancies" (many of which relate to genetics). Why and how does any of this have anything to do with American citizens being EQUAL? The governing foundation that we live by in the United States is Rule of Law, and as has been pointed out hundreds of times in this Forum, since 1965, ALL American citizens are fully and entirely EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW!

"Reparations" has NOTHING to do with any of this! If every society, civilization, or country on Earth had to pay 'reparations' to all of the people it subjugated, enslaved, ruled-over, or dominated, then almost every nation on Earth would be guilty, going all the way back to the beginning of human existence.

Does it ever strike you as odd that the only people who have an insurmountably and endlessly difficult time being able to find ways to achieve success and be happy in the United States are a segment of the Black population? Maybe Abraham Lincoln was right -- maybe they would be better off, and happier, if we just paid their way for a one-way trip back to Africa, or Haiti, or somewhere else that is predominately Black! If that would finally settle the issue, I would be willing to offer that transportation as a one-time 'reparation', on condition that none of them ever came back to America....

 

So what percentage was that?

 

I've answered this already

 

No sir, you did not. I have a solid position that will end up with you standing corrected. Between state and Federal tax, where are we as far as a percentage?

A direct answer will have a % at the end.

 

now you are posting things you know are not true. You are fully aware that I have answered it, no less than 3 times.

I'm happy to admit I was wrong. All you need to do is prove it.

asked and answered.

go back a few posts to find it.

 

You dodged by saying "less than 50%" Is it that big of a deal to have been mistaken? I am already at 48% before adding property tax, 2 gas taxes, sales tax (10% here) taxes disguised as fees, utility taxes, etc.

None are so blind...

 

I know it sucks that you made a silly claim and you can't support it, and then got called on it. Asking me the same questions over and over, that I've already answered over and over, doesn't make reality go away.

 

I want you to continue to run from the question. Those pushing for more taxes rarely acknowledge facts and are willing to put in a lot of effort to avoid them altogether.

I appreciate you giving us an example of that.

More than half of the fruits of my labor goes to the government. Still a solid position backed with links, yet to be challenged with anything other than
"nuh uh"

 

You did not answer the question. And it's understandable that you didn't. Because there is no answer other than to admit that the effects of slavery and the Jim Crowe era persist in our society to this day. Which is precisely the reason why reparations are necessary and fair

 

Why do African immigrants do better than American citizens? Are they not affected by white resistance for some reason?

 

What are you talking about? Do better what?

 

https://today.ku.edu/2020/06/18/stu...grants-do-well-despite-differences-among-them

Ta-nehisi seems to think it's because they are better, and not representative of the whole, or something.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/6891/

And a response from a black immigrant..

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/jason-hill/open-letter-ta-nehisi-coates/


So why do you think immigrants do better than American citizens?

 

You postulate that there is some unknown, arcane reason why there are more Blacks in prison on a per capita basis than Whites, and then leap from that to advance the theory that, "the effects of slavery and the Jim Crowe era persist in our society to this day", and, "reparations are necessary and fair".

Far more plausible is the rather obvious evidence that Blacks commit more crimes on a per capita basis -- especially violent crimes! Therefore, there are more of them in prison, on a per capita basis....

Part of the very important perspective that you and those with your mindset ignore completely is that although Blacks make up only ~14% of the American population, they are involved in more crimes -- on a per capita basis....

There is no "Jim Crowe era" anymore, Golem, but you know that, and the last slave died in 1937 -- 83 years ago! But it's useful for hyperliberal Leftists to try to whip this dead horse in a laughable effort to make people believe that, on top of all the other 'crutches', welfare programs, 'set-asides', hiring-preferences and "Affirmative Action that have been put in place to give Blacks an unfair advantage over others in this country, somehow, Blacks now need to be given even MORE unfair advantages in the form of "reparations".

In one word: Bullshit!

But, who knows? A nation that was deluded and mislead enough to put Biden/Harris into power might be capable of doing nearly anything, whether it's FAIR, or makes any SENSE or not.... Good luck with your big hyperliberal crusade! But you better 'get it done' before even millions MORE illegal alien 'Latinos' come pouring over the border expecting welfare-for-life from Uncle Joe and Aunt Kamala....

Hint: millions of 'Latinos' fighting with millions of Blacks over the American welfare 'pie' could get REALLY ugly, really fast!

 

why are you making things up? You are fully aware I directly answered your question, no less than 3 times.

You've made claims, but provided no support for those claims, as I keep pointing out.

you are making things up.

you do not p at 50% or more in taxes, as you keep proving.

 

I posted 2 links showing tax rates. You are running up your post total dodging these facts. Supporting higher taxes requires unwillingness to acknowledge facts and actual results.

More than 50% of what I bring in is taken by the tax man. Please continue to dodge this fact, don't click on the links I provided, and keep replying with the same argument. (Nuh uh)

 

Still no idea what you're talking about. Elon Musk is certainly one African immigrant that has done better than most American citizens. But what does that have to do with reparations?

Or with the question I asked? Looks like you don't have an answer to it either and want to change the subject.

 

which did not support your claim of paying 50% or more in taxes, as I keep pointing out.

why do you keep making things up? I directly addressed this, no less than 3 times.

You have yet to post any, as I keep pointing out.

no it isn't.

you have been challenged to support the claim that you pay over 50% of your income in taxes. You have yet to meet that challenge. The only links you've provided, show that you do not pay over 50% of your income in taxes. I'm sorry you got caught making a silly and unsupportable claim. I suggest not making them in the future, and you won't have to worry about being called on them.

 

So what percentage did my links show?

 

It was constitutional to enslave those Africans for hundreds of years. (It only became unconstitutional with the 13th amendment). So, yes it is now constitutional for the descendants of those enslaved Africans to receive reparations.