Obama Birth Certificate - Analysis of Key Facts Surrounding the Document

Throughout history, the minority were often idiots. Take the results of the poll, for example.

 

Medicine keeps growing and learning.

Birfers haven't even figured out what constitutes evidence in this case.

Or reality....

 

You lefties are a hoot!

 

No- glad to type it out slower for you

If any President were to be found, after being elected, confirmed and sworn in, to be ineligible, then he would still be President until Congress impeached him, and under the defacto officer doctrine, all actions taken would be legal until he or she was removed.



As with all Birth certificates, there is an assumption of authenticity that must be overcome with evidence.

The persons who have publicly confirmed that they have examined the original, and that the original shows that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii are:

Dr. Fukino, Director of Health, Republican, appointed by Republican Governer Lingle, who examined Obama's BC at the governers request
Loretta Fuddy, Director of Health, Democrat, appointed by Democratic Governer Abercrombie, who examined the BC when Barack Obama made a special request for a certified photo copy of his original Birth Certificate.
Dr. Alvin Onaka- Registrar of Records- civil service employee

Information is available here

http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/


President Obama is the only President in American history that has actually proven to voters that he was actually born in the United States.

 

I believe that is what these folks claimed too

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No he would not. Of course I understand by now that you are ineducable on this point, as you are on most points, so I won't bother going into why exactly you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

You seem to hardly miss a chance to mention this. Suuuuuuure must be important.

No you didn't.

To be sure. Unfortunately, you also said:

[I said his place of birth would be the only thing dictating whether or not he should be prosecuted]​

Emphases mine.

The assertion I originally took issue with and the one I quoted in #51 are not the same, as anyone ca plainly see. I suppose I could explain the discrepancy, but I don't think I should have to, since the error is entirely your own.

No, you're contradicting yourself by claiming two logically inconsistent assertions are equivalent to each other.

 

What else would dictate whether or not he should be prosecuted for any action taken as "president" if it turned out he was not eligible for being president? This debate and the speculation of his eligibility for being president is based on his place of birth, hence why people who legitimately question the president's eligibility based on his place of birth or birth certificate authenticity, etc. are called "birthers."

 

Evidently you are immune to any awareness of your mistake, so the conversation terminates here.

 

If by 'ineducable' you mean not willing to accept your exclusive version of reality- that would be true. Meanwhile I will continue to point out the real facts.

Why is Dr. Fukino being a Republican, appointed by a Republican governor, the Republican governor who happened to be the chair of John McCain's Hawaiin election committee relevant? Because it is just one more set of facts that show how idiotic Birther claims are- in this case the claims that the statements confirming Obama's BC and place of birth as Hawaii being politically motivated. Officials from two administrations- Republican and Democrat- made these claims, along with a long time Hawaiian Civil Servant.

Birthers won't accept those claims, but man, they will eat up any speculation from convicted forgerer or used car salesman or real estate broker/dentist/attorney.

 

Nice job.

SFJeff, our resident Birther destroyer.

 

Only because you insist on excluding yourself from it, as can reasonably be expected from constitutional illiterates.

It isn't, other than to the ememies of logic. You're welcome.

 

You didn't point out a mistake, you pointed out a self-evident statement I had made and then fabricated a flaw in that statement to argue against. Evidently you are immune to your own flawed tactic of debate, so yes, the conversation indeed terminates here. You have yet to actually explain what in my statement you disagreed with, aside from essentially nothing more than nitpicking that the tone of my post overall was casual and you are clearly very intensely invested in this particular conspiracy theory.

 

Trying to reason with these libs is like wrestling with pigs! They make you get dirty and stinky, but they enjoy being that way!

 

He was arguing a point with me, ironically, I'm the OP, and I'm about as far from a "lib" as one can be. I'm a conservative-leaning libertarian. To be honest, yguy had no reason to go after the semantics in my post, he never clearly elaborated on what it was in my post he disagreed with, probably because he didn't actually disagree with the content of the post, rather the casual manner of how I put it, the simple fact that I was referencing this conspiracy theory in a much more casual manner than some who are intensely invested in the concept of this conspiracy theory.

 

Sorry! I'm a libertarian leaning conservative.

 

Now you're just being childish. You would earn some respect if you would at least show your evidence that the document is fraudulent. Arpaio's head noises do not count.

 

I trust the Sheriff and his people far more than the likes of you! I don't buy that the true original BC is not available, if there ever was one. No, the proof is on the ones first claiming the BC is authentic.

 

Arpaio is an idiot. He offers no evidence of his claims. His ear crickets are not adequate.

Show us the difference you claim exists between what Obama has given us and what you think a real certificate looks like. Your stamping your feet and caterwauling will in no way effect reality otherwise.

 

google is your friend. "I shan't cast pearls before swine!"

 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

birthers are morons.

 

you seem to always have trouble with basic constitutional principles. There is only one mechanism for removing a sitting president, and that is impeachment. If it were discovered tomorrow that Obama was born on mars, and that he was not eligible to hold the office, exactly nothing would happen unless he was impeached. All of his acts would remain in tact unless specifically repealed.

 

hey rahlwong, maybe you can define natural born whilst you're at it, save our supremes the trouble. you're on a roll babycakes, or should I say on a rahl...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_usurpers

not much precedent to work with... my money is on sverker the elder....

 

First, there need to be facts there.

There is only one that has been established.

Obama is on record as having been born in Hawaii.

 

It is a true copy, but a copy of a fraudulent record! By the way, a "moron's" IQ s about half of what mine is! Most people with your idiotic mantra would likely fit that category.

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And you believe that hoax?

 

And an idiot will never present proof of what he believes. The state has said that that is how they keep birth records now. Show that they do not or admit that you are lying.