obama birth certificate: ivan zatkovich

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  1. scott e.

    scott e. New Member

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    the obots are using this to bolster their case. my exchange with ivan came just a couple of days after the release of the long form.

    i'm starting a new thread on this. because I think mr. zatkovich's role is germane on many levels, or layers.

    after quite a few emails and a couple of phone conversations, ivan suddenly, (in my opinion) and eerily draopped out.
    (so has john woodman, citing stress and lack of money,). one obot said why should they volunteer their time for something so ridiculous ? I remind the court of public opinion that many many obots spending hundreds if not thousands of hours on this case, are doing so, while at the same time, calling it stupid, trivial, banal. this goes along with ridiculing/excoriating the average people questioning the president's documentation and provenance. that is inconsistent, I want to know why they think they can have it both ways.

    but, the obots are touting this work as a viable link/evolution to their Xerox theory, which is brand new... hmmmm.

    so, this is all tangible (as can be in a virtual arenea). so I am inviting anyone with technical knowledge to help us all to sort this out.

    I say also, that if it absolutely, definitely was a Xerox machine, then the records for sales and service for a taxpaidfor copy machine used in the American peoples' white house should and could be easily confirmed, perhaps via FOIA, which I will look into.

    this controversy has many layers (pun intended), but this is black and white now (another pun): once the whitehouse confirms that it was a Xerox machine, I am hopeful the president of obama will simply open the vault and show it's a perfect match... and presto, the controversy is over, we can do other things.

    here is a quote from Ivan's initial report: In this report I will describe the following, and a link to the original report, which is the same as ivan sent to me in early may of 2011.
    the link: http://www.ecompconsultants.com/news/Obama-report.pdf
    Introduction:

    The purpose of this report is to examine the PDF document published on www.whitehouse.com that is
    stated to represent a valid copy of Obama’s birth certificate and determine if the PDF does in fact
    represent a valid copy.
    In this report I will describe the following:
    1. How the paper copy (green copy) of the birth certificate was produced by the Hawaii
    Department of Health.
    2. Review the internal data in the PDF document (the ‘Meta’ data) that appears on
    www.whitehouse.com, and to identify the source of the PDF, how it was produced, and when.
    3. Identify any anomalies that appear in the PDF document and, if possible, why they appear.
    In summary, my analysis indicates that there were modifications made to the PDF, and that the PDF
    contains, at minimum, slight alterations to the original scanned document. I have identified anomalies
    in the document in two general areas:
    a. The PDF contains multiple ‘layers’, which is not consistent with a simple scanned document.
    b. Most of the text in the document is surrounded by a white border which would not have been
    part of the Green copy produced by Hawaii.



    Conclusion
    The following is a summary of my analysis:
    1. The Hawaii Department of Health stated that they have a record of the birth certificate of Barak
    Obama.
    2. A certificate was produced by the State of Hawaii and copied onto green safety paper, as per
    normal procedure.
    3. The ‘Green copy’ was then scanned, presumably by the White House, to produce a PDF
    document.
    4. The PDF document was then modified in some fashion (e.g. layers, white halo).
    All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone
    enhancing the legibility of the document. It is possible that in addition to enhancing the legibility of the
    document that the content of the document was also changed. There is no specific evidence of how or
    why that content would have been changed, but the evidence clearly indicates that the document was
    changed .



    once again... Hmmmmm....:blankstare:

    and once again, when the theory is confirmed, that will still leave the draft reg anomalies, the SS # the missing and scrubbed records, and of course the "president's" own account of his life, as told by bill ayers, a domestic terrorist and master forger of documents, such as birth certificates and draft registrations, SS cards... etc..
     
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    lol, birthers
     
  3. scott e.

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    good one rahl... but did you really laugh out loud this time, or was that just a mechanical, rahlbot response... be honest now...

    I continue to be dazzled by your substantive replies.. you represent your side extremely well.

    hey remember this ??

    [video=youtube;8OyUEYbqVxE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OyUEYbqVxE[/video]


    and...

    [video=youtube;YL7Ek1d-grI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL7Ek1d-grI[/video]
     
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    so rahl.... what do you think about "the content of the Original document could be changed..."

    sfjeff ? fragile....? bueller ? anyone ??

    so rahlwong... Is it possible that in addition to enhancing the legibility of the
    document that the content of the document was also changed ??. it's still "virtual" right ??
    or...

    There is no specific evidence of how or
    why that content would have been changed, but the evidence clearly indicates that the document was
    changed
    .


    from zatkovich, 4/2011



    rahlY... you'd better get wong for this one...or even foggy from the ivory league tower,,,,, (bill ayers)...:roflol: obot (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s... ha... ha.... ha................

    it's so beyond sad being an obot, and we know who(m) you are...

    Obama birth certificate caper..... coming to a mainstream media outlet soon..... not.
     
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    Birthers like truthers sound simply insane
     
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    I think birthers are just are retarded as they were in 2008 when this stupidity was refuted.
     
  7. scott e.

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    I know what you mean, the story has taken on a life of it's own. everyone (birther side) is just like "why doesn't the guy just end it", open the vault, it would be so easy, then we could all have a good laugh at each other... buuuutttttt nnnnooooo. who knows maybe it part of his "legacy" by design.

    anywho... we'll just keep plugging along I guess, till we get all the answers. I guess even people supposedly born around him are denied access too (to their BC). that doesn't seem very American (or transparent) to me... oh well. i'm glad you're still here. very brave indeed.
     
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    He ended it in 2008.

    Lol birthers
     
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    you ended it in 08, that's why the debate is still raging... lol nice job.... :roflol:
     
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    There is no debate scott. birthers are just retarded
     
  11. scott e.

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    another good one rahl... dare I say genius ???
     

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