Obama Birth Certificate: the American people are catching on...

this is distinguished from my thread the media is catching on.

but I think everyone has known there is something wrong here, for a long time. irrespective of the current administration being quagmired in scandal, this story continues to stand alone.

I watch the comments at talk sites and I do notice a spike in questions and interest. many of these questions are the same that I have had since 4/27/11.

jay carney is gone: I thought chuck todd would get the job.

the obots are a huge part of this story. the media by general omission, is a huge part of this story.

a secret cannot be contained within a transparent government, or otherwise.

keep watching the anti birther sites... they are the composite of quintessential non denial denial

more people are engaging in this sad sordid affair. i'll bet a new poll would be telling. I said years ago, America loves a great caper, this is amazing and continues to defy gravity.... who knew.

watch Benghazi as a parallel.

http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/05/ff-sheriff-joe-obama-id-fraud.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/18/birther-issue-has-not-gone-away-yet-new-poll-surfa/

 

Couldn't agree more sincerely...

 

I notice pattern behavior. they all think they are so clever at manipulation. no more hard questions about either subject for mr. carney.

 

Me too.

 

As do I.

This has caught the imagination of the American people like the 9/11 Truthers have.....

 

lol - you old codgers have gone off the deep end

 

still codwater runs deep my friend.

 

Sorry for my foreign comment, but is it not a bit late to consider the matter of the birth certificate of President Obama? He is near to the end of the second mandate. No possibilities to be reelected, so ...

May be it was better to control this while he was still a candidate [before of the first election].

But, being Italian, I'm the last one to be allowed to say something about: in Italy we have had Prime Ministers not exactly "legally" [for example Berlusconi, being owner of a government concession in the field of communication, according to an old law, theoretically he hadn't the possibility to be elected, but ...].

 

Birthers are morons

 

no, it's a good question. my motivation isn't political (maybe a little, but I'm no republican). I'm curious as to why there are so many holes in the Obama story. why all the fanfare, misdirection and years of dedication and hard work by the obot patrols. I actually like a lot of the Obama as president behaviors amongst policy.

or is he just a good actor. did anyone in the administration hide anything or use the power of the office to obfuscate ?

I think the fact that the debate is raging and continues to escalate is evidence there is less of a political motivation.

if Obama is so great and squeaky pure honest and transparent, why is the mainstream media helping him all the time. this is a first in my lifetime.

so the answer to your question is: it's never to late to learn more about our leaders. they should have all been vetted equally.

don't be so self deprecating, you ask good questions, and your comments are excellent.

I'm used to seeing : birfers are stupit, and you must be a racist.... here, (as illustrated above)

so it's nice to raise the level of discussion. we used to have nice conversations about eligibility, document, obots and we the birthers.

something is still missing from the Obama story of life.

people who never called me racist before started playing the card after years of not. so maybe there is a clue. columbo always said if someone changes something suddenly, there must be a reason. the obots come and go.

foreigners are welcome to join in. even surranis... even though I give him a hard time....

 

I encourage you to continue this discussion.

I believe that such discussions as this can be very enlightening for the American electorate.

 

And of course the debate is not raging on. Don't confuse the mad rumblings of the dozen or so birthers left with a debate. Th debate was settled 6 years ago

 

My interest is merely institutional, if the President wasn't eligible, what about all the acts he has signed in the meanwhile?

Anyway, a part this "little" detail. Are there institutional ways to put a conclusive and certain word to the question of the birth certificate?

Who can be trusted about such a "judgment"?

 

You make a valid point. How can we know, for certain, that anyone's Birth Certificate is legitimate?

What if all of our President's were actually foreign born, non-citizens? What shall we do?

 

The US Constitution faced the matter, since the first Presidents weren't [as obvious!] natural born Americans [United States didn't exist yet ...]. It says that "a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President". So Washington had the possibility to become President.

The problem comes before with that

"No person except a natural born Citizen"

So that it's pivotal to be sure about the birth certificate of a candidate to the Oval Office. And this is the source of my question. Why didn't they make it definitely clear?

In Italy there is the "anagrafe" [civil registry] and the ministry of homeland control the candidate with its aid. How does it work in US?

 

It works in a very similar manner. President Obama's birth is recorded in official records, and yet there are still those who do not believe that the President was born in the United States. What do you suggest as a remedy for that phenomenon?

 

There is no remedy for the phenomenon itself. The site of the WhiteHouse presents Obama's birth certificate [http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf], but as soon as they put it on the net, the accusations of forgery came as a charge of Middle Ages knights. So ... forget about it.

The main point, in my opinion, is to make treasure of this experience: the principal is simple ... laws about eligibility have to be applied before of the election and in the doubt the candidate has to be stopped. If there are no doubt, make it clear, immediately.

 

Our eligibility laws have always been enforced. That is not the issue.

 

it's the thing they fear the most, us talking about it. asking questions. that's a red flag.

I've been doing this since way before any of the other scandals broke. my old rule, never trust a politician who says "trust me"

so too with transparency.

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if you want to be a knight, act like a knight. (quizshow)

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of course... rahlwong.

 

Birthers are morons

 

http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birt...r-obama-felony-id-fraud-cover-up-2478554.html

 

that they are, and notice the only President they have ever asked for a Birth certificate from is our current President, wonder why that is?

they did not ask any of the other candidates for their birth certificates

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Birthers are morons

 

if we were we wouldn't still be doing this.

....and what does it say for your mindless repetition rahlwong,

expecting a different result this time... ??

sadly, this story is moving down the list of Obama scandals, the Chicago way.