Obama Birth Certificate: the new poll 3/24/2013

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do you believe mr. obama has been entirely truthful and transparent about his past ?

  1. yes

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    60.5%
  2. no

    15 vote(s)
    39.5%
  1. scott e.

    scott e. New Member

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    it's great to see so many new posters getting involved with the possibility of Obama led Chicago style intimidation, corruption and destroying our great America.

    hearings begin tomorrow on the hill, let's roll the dice and think ahead to the ends justify the means exit strategy. remember the cool maniac on the whitehouse still has his finger on the button.

    I don't think he would, and I like to think he can't but...... the government has 18000 (new by 0bama) fully armed irs agents, Obama talks about a civilian army, the government is buying up all the people's bullets and there is talk that Obama is conditioning the standing army that it's not only ok to shoot it's own people, but the constitution demands it. (well he is after all a "constitutional scholar" what a joke...)

    terry lakin will be vindicated when the dust settles and the 0bama's are long gone to Chicago Hawaii or Jakarta. bill ayers will get his someday too, not from me though, because now I am too high profile and am being watched by the government every day of the week,

    no drones overhead though, first they have to find me... :roflol:

    incidentally the poll above seems to be changing.
     
  2. SFJEFF

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    Birthers demonstrate every day that there is no one more stupid or gullible than a Birther. And there is no group more hypocritical than Birthers.

    Birthers stomp there feet and pull their hair and wail "why won't Obama give me this and give me that" while at the same time never caring or ever asking any other President or Presidential candidate about this.

    Did Mayor Snorkum ever ask any of these question of Romney? Of course not. Hmmmm wonder why?

    The Birthers are so stupid that they eat up this lie and pass it around like a 2 bit whore.


    2008- Barack Obama became the first and only President to ever show Americans his birth certificate before being elected.

    In 2008 and 2011 and in 2012 the State of Hawaii confirmed that the Birth certiifcates were authentic and that Barack Obama was born there.

    Only the chronically retarded or Birthers still claim that Obama hasn't produced his birth certificate.

    Here is what Birthers consider an ambigous confirmation:

    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

    In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai„i, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai„i at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.


    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

    Birthers are idiots.

    "Nobody knows"? I know far more about what Barack Obama did in college than we ever learned about what Mitt Romney did.

    We have eyewitness accounts from his classmates, roommates and professers from Occidental College, Columbia and Harvard Law. We have his own autobiography which tells us what he was doing.

    This is the Birther double standard: To demand Obama provide more proof than any previous President- of everything.

    Did Snorkum ever demand Romney's college info- of course not.

    Birthers are idiots.


    With college loans. How did Bush pay for college?

    Did Romney claim to be a French national and get special dispensations....oh I can't even type it with a straight face.

    What special dispensations? Seriously- I went to college with foreign students in that same era- they got no 'special dispensations' and no Birther has ever been able to come up with a single rational reason why anyone- Obama, Romney, anyone would claim to be a foreigner when his high school transcripts are from Hawaii.

    Birthers are idiots.

    Now- all you have to do is provide a single bit of evidence to support this birther flight of fancy.

    Mind you- you of course never asked any of this of Romney.

    And why would you claim he was a 'Kenyan national' when you have seen his birth certificate, when the State of Hawaii says he was born there, when his birth announcements were in the paper?

    How can anyone who is not suffering from serious mental impairment look at all the evidence which demonstrates that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and come to the conclusion that it all means he was born in Kenya?

    Birthers are idiots.


    Mr. Owens,

    Barack Hussein Obama registered at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980.

    His registration number is 61-1125539-1.

    Daniel Amon Public Affairs Specialist

    http://www.volokh.com/posts/1220855825.shtml

    Did Romney claim to be a foreign national?

    Oh thats right- you only ask this of Obama- in October 2012, a month before the election as you started posting here- you didn't ask any questions about any of this from Romney....so we don't know whether Romney committed a felony either

    Stupid Birthers ask these questions of one man- and one man only. Barrack Hussein Obama.

    The reality is we know with far greater certainty the place of birth, and American citizenship of Barack Obama than we have ever known for any other President, and far more so than what we know of Mitt Romney.

    Line up all the Presidents in a row- and its not hard to spot the only President Birthers claim must provide all of this information.
     
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    So you think Obama is our modern George Washington?

    Quite the claim....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
     
  4. scott e.

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    I never said that, why would I, don't be like the surannis and make up quotes and attribute them to me, you are much better than that j.

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    Washington was the father of our country, 0bama got lucky. for now.
     
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    great analogy, it did change the definition of what is, is. people have forgotten her "you effing jew bastard days" foulmouthed Hillary.
     
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    The question is misleading and dishonest. The answer to the poll question and the question in the OP is OBVIOUSLY NO!! There is no politician in the world who is entirely truthful and transparent about their past. Do I believe that it is possible that Obama was born in Kenya and then enlisted a vast conspiracy to cover up that fact? Unequivocally NO!! Not even a question for people with any modicum of intelligence.

    PS. I hate Obama quite passionately. I just hate him for legitimate reasons. Not for reasons invented in the minds of deranged lunatics.
     
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    Well, that's not quite true.

    There are the idiots that voted for Obama, AFTER he presented them with TWO feloniously forged birth certificates.

    People have to be REALLY stupid and gullible to vote for someone after he lies his ass off like that.

    Tell us, why do you believe those forgeries aren't the fakes they obviously are?

    Because everyone knows where Romney was born, where he went to school, and how his college days were funded.

    Why didn't you ask those questions of your Messiah?

    No, he showed a forgery. It wasn't hard to spot. The document didn't have any folds in it, and it claimed he was born in Hawaii.

    There's really no point in the Mayor discussing this issue with the religiously deluded. You're certain that the mother of your Messiah wasn't a virgin, and the Mayor concurs. She was a trashy slutty commie donating the only thing she had worth giving to the Party. And then she gave birth in Kenya.

    Yes, you would naturally believe a statement from a DemocRAT politician rather than seeing the documentary proof. That's because you also know that proof doesn't exist.

    When was the last time a DemocRAT told the truth when the lie was more convenient?

    Never. It depends on the meaning of "is", and at this point in time, with so many Americans dead, what difference does it make?

    Photoshopped forgeries do not count.

    He counterfeits his birth certificate, you don't care.

    Ben Bernanke is counterfeiting US currency, and you don't care.

    He counterfeits intelligence, and you believe the Navy has corpsemen.

    You people are wonderful.

    You'd be more wonderful if you moved to a country that wanted you.

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    The Mayor has a secret admirer!

    Quit digging for the change, what you want is closer to the center.
     
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    you shouldn't hate anyone because of politics, it's a waste of your time and energy. as to the rest, this is conspiracy theory on an opinion forum, so knock yourself out.
     
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    I have never heard traitor ist birther before, that seems un America like. now it seems as if the liberals a compliant, that the question authority paradigm mantra from the past has dramatically shifted, which I guess it does.:cheerleader:
     
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    Birthers like truthers ignore reality for their own delusions. They are so sold into their special knowledge that nothing can change them. They tend to be jealous of others since they never reached the levels in life that they expected. They believe they are smarter than everyone else and the only reason they are not in charge of things is that the corrupt society is keeping them down. So this special knowledge they have allows them to feel they have a leg up on the "stupids" or "sheeple" or whatever. If you don't believe them, even without evidence, then you are dumb or a shill. An enemy. In the birther world you are perpetuating the occupation of the country and that is what is scary.
     
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    then why do you care ?? I don't think i'm smarter than everyone else... just you and miss margot. you don't think the political treatment of Benghazi is scary ?
     
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    So how is birtherism about Benghazi?
     
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    There isn't any politician I can think of, past or present, that has been entirely truthful and transparent about their past.
    You're taking this Messiah thing too seriously, Obama isn't perfect, nobody ever claimed he was, most Americans agree he was a better choice than Mitt Romney or John McCain, but only hard core right wing cultists refer to his divine nature....
     
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    Ummmmmm..... Politics has a direct impact on my life and the lives of everyone. Politics can hurt people in significant ways. If a politician hurts your ability to be prosperous as an individual and as a nation, then they ABSOLUTELY deserve your hate.

    PS. There is a section for conspiracy theories. This isn't it.
     
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    why is this outside the conspiracy forum?
     
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    The Birthers who post here on these boards, the Birthers that file the lawsuits-
    Birthers demonstrate every day that there is no one more stupid or gullible than a Birther. And there is no group more hypocritical than Birthers.

    Birthers demonstrate every day that there is no one more stupid or gullible than a Birther. And there is no group more hypocritical than Birthers.

    Birthers demonstrate every day that there is no one more stupid or gullible than a Birther. And there is no group more hypocritical than Birthers.


    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf


    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

    In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai„i, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai„i at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.

    Birthers demonstrate every day that there is no one more stupid or gullible than a Birther. And there is no group more hypocritical than Birthers.

    http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obamawas born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.

    Birthers fall into two camps- they are either gullible idiots or traitorous liars.

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    Well put.
     
  18. SFJEFF

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    Everyone knows where Obama was born, where he went to school and how his college days were funded.

    The difference between Obama and Romney? We actually have proof of where Obama was born- we never had any such proof for Obama.

    Which is the only one you demanded any proof from? Oh yes....

    Everyone knows Jesus was born in Bethelam and never went to college....

    Birthers lol.....
     
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    I love these polls. It shows just what percentage of fruitcakes we have here at PF. : )
     
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    http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
    records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama

    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.

    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

    On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President‟s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).

    On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

    On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.

    In addition- Hawaii's Registrar of Records- Dr. Alvin Onaka has verified three times to three States that Obama's birth certificate is accurate.

    Birthers are traitorous idiots.
     
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    Criminey.. education counts.
     
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    Assuming you are speaking of President Obama's mother-

    Is there anything that displays any better what morals Birthers have than how they slander dead people?

    There is really nothing much more cowardly or slimey than smearing dead people.

    Birthers do it all the time.
     
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    Oh how Birthers love to lie.

    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

    Director Fuddy is not a politician though she was a appointed by a poltician

    Rejecting the official confirmation by the State of Hawaii would just appear to be blind partisanship....except of course that Republicans have also confirmed that Barack Obama was born there...

    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
    records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
    was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen

    that would be Dr. Fukino- appointed by Republican Governor Linda Lingle- who was the Hawaiian campaign chairman for John McCain.

    And what did Republican Governor Lingle say about where Obama was born?

    “So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact

    President Obama is the only President to ever show the voters his birth certificate- the only one who has ever had his state of Birth officially confirm that he was born there.

    Traitorous Birthers insist that isn't enough.


    Line up all photo's of all the Presidents in a row- and its very obvious why Birthers insist that Obama must provide proof that they never asked of any other President or of Mitt Romney.

    Birthers are idiots.
     
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    Thanks- I am wonderful.

    And I- like Barack Obama- am wanted by our country.

    Even Birthers are Americans, though of dubious loyalty.

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    I enjoy pointing out hypocrisy.

    Not one bit of curiosity about Mitt Romney- not one hint that Mitt should produce the laundry list of information that you demand of Barack Obama.

    birthers are hypocrites.
     
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    You said what voters 'should' do- and claimed they are stupid if they don't.

    You either consider yourself to be a Stupid Voter or you have never voted.

    Birthers- the gift that keeps on entertaining....
     

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