Obama: 'Can't afford ObamaCare? Drop cable and cell phone'

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  1. Mac-7

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    Ok.

    Your Fuhrer strongly suggested that Hispanics buy healthcare first and cell phones later IF they have any money left over.

    But I think Obama still got it wrong.

    First Obama voters should kick the food stamp habit and buy food first.

    Then pay for ObamaCare if they have any money left over.
     
  2. ErikBEggs

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    Nope, not everyone could afford health care. That's why the law exists. Sorry, you're wrong.
     
  3. bwk

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    Did Obama promise all three?
     
  4. ErikBEggs

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    I'm going to ignore the stupidity of this hyperbole. You went from $7.25 to $80 / hour faster than your credibility left this thread.
     
  5. AmericanNationalist

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    Largely because Health Care isn't a necessity anymore than Cable TV or Cell Phone's, and Erik's rebuttal is also a weak rebuttal.

    If you want to insure the uninsured, then craft a plan to specifically address THAT. There was no need to blow up what was working for 89% of America. But that's what you did.

    And now you're saying "Adjust your lives to our program", after specifically promising that your program would not affect the daily lives of Americans. Just like a Democrat said that THEY know what's best our health care situations.

    The Far Left has proven themselves a million times more inept than the far right on any given day. In 6 years, what has your coalition accomplished? And the first thing you'll do to duck from your miserable failures is "Tea Party".

    So let me reask the question: What Tea Party-sponsored legislation passed? Oh and BTW, it wasn't the sequester cuts. Obama was for those, before he was against them. But flip-flopping is a Mitt Romney crime only right? Hell, the shutdown only occurred specifically because Tea Party legislation failed.

    A very brief answer for you: Is that the Tea Party at no POINT ever passed legislation. So, what kind of excuse exists for Liberal Failure in America?
     
  6. Brewskier

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    That's not why the law exists.

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    Why? The same logic applies. If someone's labor is worth $5.00 an hour and you want to artificially raise it to $15.00, why not $20? $25? $30? Where's the cutoff?
     
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    So, to get out of the lie, you go and talk about something else unrelated to the OP. That's great! Same old pattern of hit then run from the subject. You folks can't stay focused for two seconds when you get cornered with the truth.
     
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    Name calling aside... you can't say you're going to ignore something... just before you respond to it.

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    Please tell me you don't believe that....
     
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    You've never proven that it is artificial that's why.

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    I do. Are saying 50 million people without healthcare were able to afford healthcare before Obamacare?
     
  10. Mac-7

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    There is no lie.

    Obama told Hispanics to pay their ObamaCare bill first and the cell phone and cable TV only I they can afford it.

    I think h has the right idea but the wrong priority.

    Obama voters should get off food stamps and make buying their own for the first priority.
     
  11. Brewskier

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    Only someone completely unfamiliar with Economics would make a statement like this. $15.00 an hour to flip burgers is not what the market decides is a fair price for that skill. If it was, private businesses would attempt to lure potential employees with $15.00 an hour wages. They aren't doing that.
     
  12. ErikBEggs

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    Look, I don't agree with pretty much everything people on the right say, but I can at least respect a solid attempt at rebuttal, like something logical or something that shows a little effort. The problem is the right-wing doesn't seem to use even logic. I'm going to call someone out when they go from $7 to $80 / hour just to troll. I have no patience for that bull(*)(*)(*)(*).


    I don't have to "believe" anything. There were people in this country who could not purchase affordable health care. Over 4 million of them have already improved their lives.
     
  13. AmericanNationalist

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    You really don't understand the term 'artificial wages'? No wonder the Democratic party's inept. Government should NEVER be run by idiots but that's what we have folks lol.

    http://www.shmoop.com/labor-wages-unions/market-theory-wage-determination.html

    Human Capital isn't just a reference to monetary/asset value but also to your knowledge: For the love of god, Democrats, stop hating the market place and start learning more about it. Before you make anymore ACA's.
     
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    About 20 million of those 50 million are illegal aliens who are not eligible. That won't change because of Obamacare. Millions more were young, healthy people who would rather spend their money on iPhones than comprehensive health care with services that they don't need. We're talking 10-15 million people who legitimately wanted health care and couldn't afford it, and for them the hundreds of millions of people who were happy with their healthcare and comprised 85% of the country must pay more and suffer with inferior care, loss of coverage, higher copays and deductables, and all of the other piles of (*)(*)(*)(*) that this law has put into the market.
     
  15. ErikBEggs

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    $0 / hour (no minimum wage) is also not acceptable. It gives even more wage bargaining power to the 1%. No thanks.

    With no minimum wage, it looks like this:

    Recession, wages fall, recession, wages fall more, recession, wages fall even more.

    That is called economic contraction.

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    That is completely wrong. You may lose the coverage you previously had, but everyone is eligible and required to participate in some sort of health care due to the individual mandate.
     
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    There are no words in that video where he said that, so now you try and cover your lie with yet another lie. This is an amazing display of denial and dishonesty at telling the truth. Unbelievable. If Obama voters should get off food stamps, would it also be appropriate that these voters get off welfare as well; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb0UNRl-paQ?
     
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    Nobody would work for 0 an hour, so businesses wouldn't be able to function with no employees. Bad analogy.

    People should work for what their skills are worth. That will reduce unemployment.

    Whereas your system causes this:

    Recession, wages inflated, layoffs, recession, wages inflated, even worse layoffs, etc. Maybe a little outsourcing thrown in because you made it unacceptable to do business here.
     
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    If the numbers you posted were true, you would have linked those numbers. You didn't.
     
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    Wrong, as usual. The Minimum wage is a corporation's greatest friend. You have literally been their #1 asset. You're promoting slave wages(and the jobs that qualify for the minimum wage, reflect that truth). The Minimum Wage is a deal with the government, wherein the government gets "deflated" unemployment numbers, and the businesses can hire Americans at dirt cheap prices.

    The Minimum Wage, as unions are now recognizing is not the deal they thought it was: It's a lose-lose for everyone(as that link I posted explained). Only the 1% that you supposedly bark up a tree against, love the minimum wage.

    Replace the Minimum Wage with a Contractual Economy. A work-based economy on production and human capital will assure a significant living salary for those who participate. This means Education will improve, the economy will expand, businesses will grow. All 100% of Americans will enjoy a better livelihood.

    This is how economics works, a true shrewd businessman looks for long-term gains. My political proposals are business-like for the whole country.
     
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    Strange this is the same President that said ACA would LOWER costs.
     
  21. ErikBEggs

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    It has in my state.
     
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    Why didn't he/they say that during the sale of this snake oil? How woulda that have gone over?

    But Noooooo!

    "It's gunna save you $2500 yearly", "If you like your Doc keep it. Period!", "If you like your plan keep it. Period!" "I promise."
     
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    It was a joke.......Dear Leader has become a comedian......
     
  24. RP12

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    1 of the 57? ;)
     
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    Actually, I'm quite pissed at the American people for being such blind (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sheep and lacking any critical thinking and objective critic and analysis.
     

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