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  1. Not Amused

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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How does that suggest I think regulations only protect the public?

    Do you think that regulations only hurt the public?
     
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    I believe there are a small set of regulations needed to protect the public, maybe 10 to 100.

    Here is a regulation described as "Standards of Performance for New Stationary Sources and Emission Guidelines for Existing Sources: Sewage Sludge Incineration Units" ?!? 83 pages, single spaced.

    http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=EPA-HQ-OAR-2009-0559-0148

    Do we really need separate regulations for each source of emissions? IMHO, that only allows loop holes for a specific industry, or increases the cost of entry to an industry. Does that protect "the people"?


    Here is a list of the regulating agencies you can search on regulations.gov

    ABMC - AMERICAN BATTLE MONUMENTS COMMISSION
    ACF - ADMINISTRATION OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES
    ACFR - ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE OF THE FEDERAL REGISTER
    ACUS - ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCE OF THE UNITED STATES
    ADF - AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT FOUNDATION
    AFRH - ARMED FORCES RETIREMENT HOME
    AHRQ - AGENCY FOR HEALTHCARE RESEARCH AND QUALITY
    AID - AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT
    AMC - ANTITRUST MODERNIZATION COMMISSION
    AMS - AGRICULTURAL MARKETING SERVICE
    AOA - ADMINISTRATION ON AGING
    APHIS - ANIMAL AND PLANT HEALTH INSPECTION SERVICE
    APPAL - APPALACHIAN STATES LOW-LEVEL RADIOACTIVE WASTE COMMISSION
    ARCTIC - ARCTIC RESEARCH COMMISSION
    ARS - AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH SERVICE
    ARTS - NATIONAL FOUNDATION ON THE ARTS AND THE HUMANITIES
    ATBCB - ARCHITECTURAL AND TRANSPORTATION BARRIERS COMPLIANCE BOARD
    ATF - ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES BUREAU
    ATSDR - AGENCY FOR TOXIC SUBSTANCES AND DISEASE REGISTRY
    BBG - BROADCASTING BOARD OF GOVERNORS
    BGSEEF - BARRY M. GOLDWATER SCHOLARSHIP AND EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION FOUNDATION
    BIA - BUREAU OF INDIAN AFFAIRS
    BIS - BUREAU OF INDUSTRY AND SECURITY
    BLM - BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT
    BLS - BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS
    BOEM - BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT, REGULATION, AND ENFORCEMENT
    BOP - FEDERAL PRISONS BUREAU
    BOR - BUREAU OF RECLAMATION
    BPA - BONNEVILLE POWER ADMINISTRATION
    BPD - BUREAU OF PUBLIC DEBT
    CCC - COMMODITY CREDIT CORPORATION
    CCJJDP - COORDINATING COUNCIL ON JUVENILE JUSTICE AND DELINQUENCY PREVENTION
    CDC - CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION
    CDFI - COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS FUND
    CEQ - COUNCIL ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
    CFPB - BUREAU OF CONSUMER FINANCIAL PROTECTION
    CFPB - CONSUMER FINANCIAL PROTECTION BUREAU
    CFTC - COMMODITY FUTURES TRADING COMMISSION
    CIA - CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
    CIGIE - COUNCIL OF THE INSPECTORS GENERAL ON INTEGRITY AND EFFICIENCY
    CITA - COMMITTEE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TEXTILE AGREEMENTS
    CMS - CENTERS FOR MEDICARE&MEDICAID SERVICES
    CNCS - CORPORATION FOR NATIONAL AND COMMUNITY SERVICE
    COE - CORPS OF ENGINEERS
    COFA - COMMISSION OF FINE ARTS
    COLC - COPYRIGHT OFFICE, LIBRARY OF CONGRESS
    CORP - CORPORATION FOR NATIONAL AND COMMUNITY SERVICE
    CPPBSD - COMMITTEE FOR PURCHASE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND OR SEVERELY DISABLED
    CPSC - CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION
    CRB - COPYRIGHT ROYALTY BOARD, LIBRARY OF CONGRESS
    CRC - CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION
    CSB - CHEMICAL SAFETY AND HAZARD INVESTIGATION BOARD
    CSEO - CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT OFFICE
    CSOSA - COURT SERVICES AND OFFENDER SUPERVISION AGENCY FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
    CSREES - COOPERATIVE STATE RESEARCH, EDUCATION, AND EXTENSION SERVICE
    DARS - DEFENSE ACQUISITION REGULATIONS SYSTEM
    DC - DENALI COMMISSION
    DEA - DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION
    DEPO - DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT POLICY OFFICE
    DHS - DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
    DIA - DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
    DISA - DEFENSE INFORMATION SYSTEMS AGENCY
    DLA - DEFENSE LOGISTICS AGENCY
    DNFSB - DEFENSE NUCLEAR FACILITIES SAFETY BOARD
    DOC - DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
    DOD - DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
    DOE - DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
    DOI - DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
    DOJ - DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
    DOL - DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
    DOS - DEPARTMENT OF STATE
    DOT - DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
    DRBC - DELAWARE RIVER BASIN COMMISSION
    EAB - BUREAU OF ECONOMIC ANALYSIS
    EAC - ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION
    EBSA - EMPLOYEE BENEFITS SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
    ECAB - EMPLOYEES' COMPENSATION APPEALS BOARD
    ECSA - ECONOMICS AND STATISTICS ADMINISTRATION
    ED - DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
    EDA - ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION
    EEOC - EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION
    EERE - ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND RENEWABLE ENERGY OFFICE
    EIA - ENERGY INFORMATION ADMINISTRATION
    EIB - EXPORT IMPORT BANK OF THE UNITED STATES
    EOA - ENERGY OFFICE, AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT
    EOIR - EXECUTIVE OFFICE FOR IMMIGRATION REVIEW
    EOP - EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
    EPA - ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
    ERS - ECONOMIC RESEARCH SERVICE
    ESA - EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ADMINISTRATION
    ETA - EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING ADMINISTRATION
    FAA - FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION
    FAR - FEDERAL ACQUISITION REGULATION
    FAS - FOREIGN AGRICULTURAL SERVICE
    FASAB - FEDERAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS ADVISORY BOARD
    FBI - FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
    FCA - FARM CREDIT ADMINISTRATION
    FCC - FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
    FCIC - FEDERAL CROP INSURANCE CORPORATION
    FCSIC - FARM CREDIT SYSTEM INSURANCE CORPORATION
    FDA - FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
    FDIC - FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION
    FEC - FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION
    FEMA - FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY
    FERC - FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION
    FFIEC - FEDERAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS EXAMINATION COUNCIL
    FHFA - FEDERAL HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY
    FHFB - FEDERAL HOUSING FINANCE BOARD
    FHWA - FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION
    FINCEN - FINANCIAL CRIMES ENFORCEMENT NETWORK
    FINCIC - FINANCIAL CRISIS INQUIRY COMMISSION
    FISCAL - FISCAL SERVICE
    FLETC - FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER
    FLRA - FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY
    FMC - FEDERAL MARITIME COMMISSION
    FMCS - FEDERAL MEDIATION AND CONCILIATION SERVICE
    FMCSA - FEDERAL MOTOR CARRIER SAFETY ADMINISTRATION
    FNS - FOOD AND NUTRITION SERVICE
    FPPO - FEDERAL PROCUREMENT POLICY OFFICE
    FR - OFFICE OF THE FEDERAL REGISTER
    FRA - FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION
    FRS - FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
    FRTIB - FEDERAL RETIREMENT THRIFT INVESTMENT BOARD
    FS - FOREST SERVICE
    FSA - FARM SERVICE AGENCY
    FSIS - FOOD SAFETY AND INSPECTION SERVICE
    FSOC - FINANCIAL STABILITY OVERSIGHT COUNCIL
    FTA - FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION
    FTC - FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION
    FTZB - FOREIGN-TRADE ZONES BOARD
    FWS - FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE
    GAO - GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE
    GEO - GOVERNMENT ETHICS OFFICE
    GIPSA - GRAIN INSPECTION, PACKERS AND STOCKYARDS ADMINISTRATION
    GPO - GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
     
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    GSA - GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION
    HHS - DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
    HHSIG - INSPECTOR GENERAL OFFICE, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT
    HOPE - BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE HOPE FOR HOMEOWNERS PROGRAM
    HPAC - HISTORIC PRESERVATION, ADVISORY COUNCIL
    HRSA - HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION
    HST - HARRY S. TRUMAN SCHOLARSHIP FOUNDATION
    HUD - DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
    IAF - INTER-AMERICAN FOUNDATION
    ICEB - IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT BUREAU
    IHS - INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE
    IIO - INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT OFFICE
    IRS - INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
    ISOO - INFORMATION SECURITY OVERSIGHT OFFICE
    ITA - INTERNATIONAL TRADE ADMINISTRATION
    ITC - INTERNATIONAL TRADE COMMISSION
    JBEA - JOINT BOARD FOR ENROLLMENT OF ACTUARIES
    LMSO - LABOR-MANAGEMENT STANDARDS OFFICE
    LOC - LIBRARY OF CONGRESS
    LSC - LEGAL SERVICES CORPORATION
    MARAD - MARITIME ADMINISTRATION
    MBDA - MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AGENCY
    MCC - MILLENNIUM CHALLENGE CORPORATION
    MISS - MISSISSIPPI RIVER COMMISSION
    MKU - MORRIS K. UDALL SCHOLARSHIP AND EXCELLENCE IN NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY FOUNDATION
    MMC - MARINE MAMMALCOMMISSION
    MMS - MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE
    MSHA - MINE SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION
    MSHFRC - FEDERAL MINE SAFETY AND HEALTH REVIEW COMMISSION
    MSPB - MERIT SYSTEMS PROTECTION BOARD
    NARA - NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION
    NASA - NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
    NASS - NATIONAL AGRICULTURAL STATISTICS SERVICE
    NCD - NATIONAL COUNCIL ON DISABILITY
    NCLIS - NATIONAL COMMISSION ON LIBRARIES AND INFORMATION SCIENCE
    NCPPCC - NATIONAL CRIME PREVENTION AND PRIVACY COMPACT COUNCIL
    NCS - NATIONAL COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM
    NCUA - NATIONAL CREDIT UNION ADMINISTRATION
    NEC - NATIONAL ECONOMIC COUNCIL
    NEIGHBOR - NEIGHBORHOOD REINVESTMENT CORPORATION
    NHTSA - NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION
    NIFA - NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FOOD AND AGRICULTURE
    NIGC - NATIONAL INDIAN GAMING COMMISSION
    NIH - NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH
    NIL - NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR LITERACY
    NIST - NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY
    NLRB - NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
    NMB - NATIONAL MEDIATION BOARD
    NNSA - NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
    NOAA - NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION
    NPREC - NATIONAL PRISON RAPE ELIMINATION COMMISSION
    NPS - NATIONAL PARK SERVICE
    NRC - NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
    NRCS - NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION SERVICE
    NSA - NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE
    NSF - NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION
    NTIA - NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION ADMINISTRATION
    NTSB - NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD
    NWTRB - NUCLEAR WASTE TECHNICAL REVIEW BOARD
    OCC - COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY
    ODNI - OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
    OEPNU - OFFICE OF ENERGY POLICY AND NEW USES
    OFAC - OFFICE OF FOREIGN ASSETS CONTROL
    OFCCP - OFFICE OF FEDERAL CONTRACT COMPLIANCE PROGRAMS
    OFHEO - FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT OFFICE
    OFPP - OFFICE OF FEDERAL PROCUREMENT POLICY
    OJJDP - JUVENILE JUSTICE AND DELINQUENCY PREVENTION OFFICE
    OJP - JUSTICE PROGRAMS OFFICE
    OMB - OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET
    ONDCP - OFFICE OF NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY
    ONHIR - OFFICE OF NAVAJO AND HOPI INDIAN RELOCATION
    ONRR - OFFICE OF NATURAL RESOURCES REVENUE
    OPIC - OVERSEAS PRIVATE INVESTMENT CORPORATION
    OPM - OFFICE OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT
    OPPM - OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT AND POLICY MANAGEMENT
    OSC - OFFICE OF SPECIAL COUNSEL
    OSHA - OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION
    OSHRC - OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH REVIEW COMMISSION
    OSM - OFFICE OF SURFACE MINING RECLAMATION AND ENFORCEMENT
    OSTP - OFFICE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY POLICY
    OTS - OFFICE OF THRIFT SUPERVISION
    PACIFIC - PACIFIC NORTHWEST ELECTRIC POWER AND CONSERVATION PLANNING COUNCIL
    PBGC - PENSION BENEFIT GUARANTY CORPORATION
    PC - PEACE CORPS
    PHMSA - PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS SAFETY ADMINISTRATION
    PHS - PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE
    PRC - POSTAL REGULATORY COMMISSION
    PRES - PRESIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS
    PT - PRESIDIO TRUST
    PTO - PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
    RATB - RECOVERY ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY BOARD
    RBS - RURAL BUSINESS-COOPERATIVE SERVICE
    RHS - RURAL HOUSING SERVICE
    RISC - REGULATORY INFORMATION SERVICE CENTER
    RITA - RESEARCH AND INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY ADMINISTRATION
    RMA - RISK MANAGEMENT AGENCY
    RRB - RAILROAD RETIREMENT BOARD
    RTB - RURAL TELEPHONE BANK
    RUS - RURAL UTILITIES SERVICE
    SAMHSA - SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ADMINISTRATION
    SBA - SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION
    SEC - SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
    SIGIR - SPECIAL INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR IRAQ RECONSTRUCTION
    SJI - STATE JUSTICE INSTITUTE
    SLSDC - SAINT LAWRENCE SEAWAY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
    SRBC - SUSQUEHANNA RIVER BASIN COMMISSION
    SS - SECRET SERVICE
    SSA - SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
    SSS - SELECTIVE SERVICE SYSTEM
    STB - SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BOARD
    SWPA - SOUTHWESTERN POWER ADMINISTRATION
    TA - TECHNOLOGY ADMINISTRATION
    TREAS - DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
    TSA - TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
    TTB - ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO TAX AND TRADE BUREAU
    TVA - TENNESSEE VALLEY AUTHORITY
    URMCC - UTAH RECLAMATION MITIGATION AND CONSERVATION COMMISSION
    USA - ARMY DEPARTMENT
    USAF - AIR FORCE DEPARTMENT
    USBC - BUREAU OF THE CENSUS
    USCBP - CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION BUREAU
    USCC - U.S. CHINA ECONOMIC AND SECURITY REVIEW COMMISSION
    USCG - COAST GUARD
    USCIS - U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES
    USDA - DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
    USEIB - EXPORT-IMPORT BANK
    USIP - UNITED STATES INSTITUTE OF PEACE
    USJC - JUDICIAL CONFERENCE OF THE UNITED STATES
    USMINT - UNITED STATES MINT
    USN - NAVY DEPARTMENT
    USPC - PAROLE COMMISSION
    USPS - POSTAL SERVICE
    USSC - UNITED STATES SENTENCING COMMISSION
    USTR - OFFICE OF UNITED STATES TRADE REPRESENTATIVE
    USUHS - UNIFORMED SERVICES UNIVERSITY OF THE HEALTH SCIENCES
    VA - DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
    VCNP - VALLES CALDERA TRUST
    VETS - VETERANS EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING SERVICE
    WAPA - WESTERN AREA POWER ADMINISTRATION
    WCPO - WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAMS OFFICE
    WHD - WAGE AND HOUR DIVISION
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, of course Capitalism can still work with regulation. There are good regulations, and then there is over-regulation.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How interesting. What does that have to do with the issue of whether you can capitalism with regulation?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And under-regulation. The subprime crisis is an excellent example.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes you are correct. The private sector is what makes the economy move, which in turn, creates more activity in the private sector, and so on.

    It certainly doesn't come from the public sector. Without the private sector, the public sector would not exist.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, and Barney Frank didn't agree.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Clearly not true. Whilst central planning isn't a good option, it certainly can replace capitalism. In contrast, without the public sector capitalism- being an unstable paradigm- will collapse
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is why we need senseble regulation, not over-regulation.

    The government does not have a good track record trying to play capitalsim.

    The USPS may be the next victim.
     
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    Meaningless comment.

    The very existence of modern capitalism in the US is the result of her government 'playing capitalism'. Your ideology is just not consistent with the economic history
     
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    Yeah, that's why they elected a foreign, black, socialist/commie with the middle name of 'Hussein' who attended a church that preaches revolution theology.
     
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    In a landslide.

    The Tea Party narratives keep contradicting themselves. It would be funny were it not for the fact that the GOP **********s are hellbent on destroying the US economy.
     
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    Landru Guide Us Banned

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    This makes such little sense I can't even unpack it to rebut it, but I'll try.

    All markets are made by rules. Some rules benefit workers. Some rules benefit owners of capital. Some rules benefit consumers. And each rule imposes burdens on somebody.

    The system of mixed rules we've had since the New Deal has resulted in the US becoming the most powerful economic engine on the planet, with shared prosperity for all.

    Since Reagan, that engine has been sputtering as conservatives have imposed more rules favoring capital at the expense of workers and consumers. Reich lays all this out in "Aftershock."

    So again, talking about capitalism doing this or that, or overregulation being bad is virtually meaningless. It's all about a system of rules. Conservative rules aren't working. Progressive ones do.
     
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    Being the only major country with an intact manufacturing infrastructure in 1945, coupled with the Bretton Woods monetary agreement that established the dollar as the reserve currency did that. Of course we have exploited that to its end game, and the "prosperity for all" has really been a steady, lopsided transfer of wealth to the top, a point which you recognize but for which you cannot understand the cause.

    Worship your "mixed rules", then scratch your butt and wonder why you are sinking further below the top rung.
     
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    Yes, and it has collapsed.
    Thank you for your fine example of corporatism and failure.
     
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    Landru Guide Us Banned

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    Right on schedule. It's like you get a memo from Limbaugh or something.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    The break from reality created through right wing ideology is a bit of a chore! Instabilities were created because neo-liberalism run amok (that enables us to understand the dominance of the financial class, who were able to utilise deregulation to profiteer at the expense of macroeconomic stability)
     
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    Capitalism is a system of private investments.
    A capitalist is simply a person with wealth,
    who invests that wealth within a capitalist system.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/capitalism
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/capitalist


    In other words, it wasn't the direct fault of the regulations,
    but the short-sightedness of the people?


    No one, not even yourself, has yet to give an example of such a regulation that is currently in play.


    Well, I never said capitalism was to blame, but it just so happens that I do think it is to blame.
    There are too many reasons for me to address all at one,
    but you mentioned yourself,
    the negative affect that the deregulation of housing and banking had on the economy.
    Well, deregulation is a move towards pure laissez faire capitalism.


    Most of what you posted there seems to be a result of lack of regulations,
    and or a need for stricter more clear-cut regulatory rules.
    Anyway, if all the regulations do is limit the need for the customer to pay attention, then you cannot really blame the regulation if the customer happens to not pay attention, and something goes wrong.
    Blame the customer,
    or better yet,
    blame who ever it was who caused things to go wrong.


    What do you mean?
    Capitalism was always in play in the U.S.
    And it still is.

    -Meta
     
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    So Not Amused is speaking for you then?
    In that case, see my post above. (or on the previous page)

    Also, Not Amused did not answer all of my questions,
    here are a few you might still want to take a whack at.
    Though I am interested in hearing your view on even the ones he did answer.


    2. Do you know what capitalism is?
    4. Why is capitalism not to blame?
    5. What specific regulations are you talking about when you mention regulations that do nothing but limit competition?


    -Meta
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Followed by an even more meaningless comment.

    Yes, "Marxist capitalism".
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is true in poll after poll. The majority of Americans do align themselves with Conservatism, but for some reason, the liberals in this country have a better turnout at the polls.
     
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    Spoken like a truly biased liberal.

    Tell me, what Progressive rules are working?
     
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    You said it! Why don't you put that right? I know right wingers aren't too keen on sound economics, but buck the trend! Define "sensible regulation" and "over-regulation". Please don't include any further clichés

    This is a ridiculous comment. Try to make some sense!
     

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