Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Apparently Obama not only dropped the ball on this he purposely threw it away but now Trump's the bad guy for not browbeating Putin in public.

    "During a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, Sen. James Risch, R-Idaho, asked Daniel about a passage in the book Russian Roluette. The passage was about a staffer from Daniel's team, Daniel Prieto, retelling the time that Obama's national security adviser Susan Rice told Daniel and his team to halt their efforts and to "stand down" in countering Russia's cyberattacks.

    Daniel was quoted saying to his team that they had to stop working on options to counter the Russian attack: "We've been told to stand down." Prieto is quoted as being "incredulous and in disbelief" and asking, "Why the hell are we standing down?"

    "That is an accurate rendering of the conversation at the staff meeting but the larger context is something that we can discuss in the classified session," Daniel said. "But I can say there were many concerns about how many people were involved in the development of the options so the decision at that point was to neck down the number of people that were involved in our ongoing response options. It's not accurate to say all activities ceased at that point. "

    Daniel and his team were tasked in developing options to Russia's cyberattacks on the United States. Russian hacked the Democratic National Committee servers in 2015 and into voter registration systems of several U.S. states in 2016."

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html
     
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    I think you can imagine why this hasn't piqued the curiosity of the MSNBC crowd.
     
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    We seem incapable of stopping Russian hacking...….Cyber security is an oxymoron.....it ain't happening.
     
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    Fox didn't bother to report the rest of what was said. The reasons for the stand down order were classified according to Daniels.
     
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    One notes that the majority of our leftists are still denying that Obama did any such thing, even though there was testimony under oath. It's the same with Obama interfering in Israel's election process. Most of them are still denying that Obama ever did that; and the few that KNOW he did it . . . are bragging on their leftist Political Messiah.
     
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    OK. How would you analyze that little tid-bit?
     
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    Really? According to Stormy? And you give credibility to what she said/says? A woman who fit the the term prostitute?
     
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    No reason to stand down. He picked Putin over America. The traitor!
     
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    BULLSHIT. One analyst had an aggressive response strategy that the LAME DUCK president thought should be the decision of the next president. He screwed the pooch on that one, big time.

    Seems the current president wasn't all that eager to do ANYTHING about russia, in fact he has been lying his face off about it ad infinitum.

    But I guess now it can't be called a hoax anymore, the only thing to do is blame obama.

    You guys are hilarious.
     
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    From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html

    Excerpt:

    WASHINGTON — Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

    The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

    Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.


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    Of course they were. That's how Obama kept it from bring scrutinized, the oldest Political legal trick in the book.
     
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    Obama told the CIA to stand down in investigation of cyber hacking by Russia do yeah he's kind of to blame for what then happened. Trump wasn't president when this was going on Obama was.
     
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    Thank you for once again pointing out these cyber attacks happened on Obama's watch after he told intelligence agencies to stand down. Trump is to blame for this how?
     
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    No he didn't. That's bullshit just like the benghazi stand down order. Seems many trumpettes are incapable of actually comprehending events and can only accept bullshit partisan spin.

    Thanks for the demonstration of how bullshit gets disseminated in communication feedback loops. Start a bullshit fake news piece and then because most won't bother to question it, since it aligns with their tribal feelings, they but will be happy to repeat it ad nauseum in any discussion. It becomes a bumpersticker where the statement serves evidence of itself.
     
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    Obviously you didn't read the link in the OP.

    "Obama's national security adviser Susan Rice told Daniel and his team to halt their efforts and to "stand down" in countering Russia's cyberattacks.

    Daniel was quoted saying to his team that they had to stop working on options to counter the Russian attack: "We've been told to stand down." Prieto is quoted as being "incredulous and in disbelief" and asking, "Why the hell are we standing down?"
     
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    no hes' not to blame for what happened. RUSSIA is to blame for what happened. That Obama "blew the call" on retaliation is something everyone with hindsight can see.
     
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    I stand corrected.

    You do understand WHY the order was given to the white house cyber security staff, don't you? It was not a stand down order to the intelligence community by any means. In fact, Obama directed his agencies to get on the case which resulted in this little gem, that the trumpettes claimed was bullshit anti trump propaganda.

    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdfhttps://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
     
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    They were brain storming all sort of sexy plots to catch the Russians and shame them..

    You really haven't bothered with this story, have you?
     
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    Obama said he told Putin, "Shame on you. Don't do that anymore."
     
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    Then he kicked 35 Russian diplomats and instituted sanctions.
     
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    hmmm. I think it was a little more forceful than that.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/why-the-hell-are-we-standing-down/

     
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    I'm sure Putin was worried after Obama sold him 20% of our Uranium production; gave him Iran as a client for his missile and Uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb building equipment. It was long after then Senator Obama disarmed Ukraine so Putin could annex Crimea without a shot being fired while he was in office, reneging on long standing US commitments.
     
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    So, facts were not used in this report. By the report's own admission, and hence the caveat. I want facts to back up judgment, as I do in all areas of my life. Especially when it involves very important things.

    From the report...

    High confidence generally indicate reports are based on high quality information from multiple sources. High confidence in a judgment does not imply the assessment is a fact or certainty; such judgments might be wrong.

    So, there are no facts or certainty in this report. And yet, some of us treat it as if it was.

    And yet MSM and others have treated it as if it were a report based upon facts, certainty.

    Does this have any importance, the caveat? It should, but one would not know that when listening to some people, here, and MSM.

    When japan attacked us at pearl harbor, that was a fact. Not an assessment, as offering up by these intel agencies. What? They don't have the facts to use, or what? As Joe Friday said, just the facts ma'am.

    JFK gave us classified photos, of USSR missiles in cuba, he gave us facts. Not a judgment, which may or may not be true.

    That some americans demand facts does not make us putin puppets nor working for the russians. And yet this accusation has been cast, by people in your camp, in MSM, and democrats.

    Facts do not matter to partisans, obviously. But they do matter to serious people. People concerned with truth, with facts. I know it must seem such a quaint thing in the times we live in....and apparently some kind of anachronism.

    And yet, we have heard of no one actually getting the facts voiced by assange and murray. Which of course, if true, would blow this intel assessment, devoid of fact based judgment out of the water. And how would that make any future assessments, of high confidence look? It is not in their interest to do that, so perhaps that is why no one has even tried to see the evidence offered up by assange in regards to his source for the dnc emails? And one would naturally think of this, given what assange had said on this subject and his offer to congress. Congress does not want truth, obviously, or they would have tried to work out a deal with assange. But then, since so many are on the record, claiming the report from intel to be fact, certainty, well, revealing just how stupid these people in congress are is not in their own best self interest either! ha ha

    High confidence, not based upon fact, and then telling us their judgment may not be true. No, it does not give some of us pause, right? ha ha. We just claim it is fact and believe in that lie. For partisan reasons, perhaps. Or perhaps our brains just don't operate on fact? That has been obvious from the get-go on this issue.
     
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    He told intelligence agencies to stand down. Maybe he thought after he told Putin to "cut it out" the problem was solved. LOL
     

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