Obama Is Sending 275 US Troops To Iraq to protect our embassy.

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  1. Defengar

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-is-sending-275-us-troops-to-iraq-2014-6

    President Barack Obama is sending 275 U.S. troops to Iraq to "provide support and security for U.S. personnel and the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad" in the wake of territorial gains made by the jihadist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS).
    Obama announced the decision in a letter Monday sent to Speaker of the House John Boehner and President Pro Tempore of the Senate Patrick Leahy in which he notified them of the deployment as required by the War Powers Resolution.

    "Starting on June 15, 2014, up to approximately 275 U.S. Armed Forces personnel are deploying to Iraq to provide support and security for U.S. personnel and the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad," wrote Obama. "This force is deploying for the purpose of protecting U.S. citizens and property, if necessary, and is equipped for combat. This force will remain in Iraq until the security situation becomes such that it is no longer needed."

    In a statement from the White House Friday, Obama said he was considering a variety of options to deal with the escalating situation in Iraq, but stressed he would "not be sending troops back into combat." Last week, hundreds of personnel were evacuated from the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad as the ISIS militants came closer to the city.

    Shortly after Obama's letter to Congress was released, the White House press secretary issued a statement emphasizing the troops would be in a "support and security" role.

    "Today, consistent with the War Powers Resolution, the President transmitted a report notifying the Congress that up to approximately 275 U.S. military personnel are deploying to Iraq to provide support and security for U.S. personnel and the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. The personnel will provide assistance to the Department of State in connection with the temporary relocation of some staff from the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad to the U.S. Consulates General in Basra and Erbil and to the Iraq Support Unit in Amman," the press secretary said. "These U.S. military personnel are entering Iraq with the consent of the Government of Iraq. The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad remains open, and a substantial majority of the U.S. Embassy presence in Iraq will remain in place and the embassy will be fully equipped to carry out its national security mission."

    The White House did not immediately respond to a request from Business Insider about whether this represents a change in the president's position on Iraq and whether more U.S. troops may be sent into the country.
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    Good move by the pres imo. I doubt any ISIS people will try to reenact Benghazi with 275+ pairs of American boots inside the walls.
     
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    Better than having another Benghazi I guess.
     
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    If ISIS wants the embassy 275 troops aren't going to stop them.

    I assume there's air support readily available at a moments notice (unlike Benghazi), otherwise he should just evacuate the embassy. I don't want to see another Tehran circa 1979.
     
  4. Defengar

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    Really? Do you think ISIS really has the liquid capabilities to take on 275 fully armed, supplied, and dug in US ground forces in open combat? Maybe if they sent over 1000 men, but that would be a HUGE portion of their available forces. No way they would risk it, even if they wanted to take the embassy. Especially since sending a literal army would make them super easy pickings for air. There is a reason insurgents have almost never move against us out in the open with large numbers since nam. They get chewed up by our superior fire power almost every time.
     
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    Ok, a new Saigon is coming.

    I trust that modern helicopters will be more efficient when it will come the time to evacuate ...

    P.S. sending 300 units would have been more epic: in case of final battle they would have been remembered as the 300 of Baghdad. Like the Spartans ...
     
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    Our superior firepower comes from support, mostly air. Let's hope these troops have some sort of support in place.

    Pretty sad really, these soldiers went from liberating the entire country to defending the last building. It is not much different than Saigon.
     
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    That sure sounds like boots on the ground to me.

    But i don't suppose the golfer in chief is ready to admit defeat and simply remove all US presence in Iraq including the embassy.
     
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    Embassy is US territory. I don't know why conservatives are so keen to run away from that.

    Also why the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about "defeat"? Do you also (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about Nixon leaving Nam? Clinton abandoning efforts in Somalia? Eisenhower leaving Korea? Etc...

    Sometimes it's better to just let the chips fall where they may and not give the opponent the skin off out back in a fight not even close to being on US soil. Iraq was never going to be worth it. That was made more and more apparent as time dragged on.
     
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    Your history is clouded with inaccuracy.

    Nixon left Vietnam with our pride intact.

    The humiliating pictures of S Vietnamese being evacuated by helicopter from the roof of the US embassy are courtesy of the democrat controlled congress

    Dems cut off funds for the South Vietnamese and a,lowed the communists to sweep into Saigon and rename it Ho Chi Min City.

    And the same goes for the rest of your historical narrative.
     
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    No he didn't. Everyone knew (*)(*)(*)(*) would hit the fan when we left no matter what after the puppet government we propped up in the south lost the people's support years earlier.

    So you wanted us to keep buying off people forever? What happened to small government?


    And what do you mean the rest of my narrative? Eisenhower was a republican and he knew beating against the Chinese trying to salvage a domination victory over North Korea was a hopeless cause. We were holding them at the DMZ and that was as good as it was going to get unless we wanted to start world war 3.

    Somalia went to (*)(*)(*)(*) almost immediately and anyone who knows anything about that conflict should know staying would have been a bad move. Obviously you have never heard about it. Maybe you should read a Wikipedia article or maybe watch Blackhawk Down to get yourself started.
     
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    Thats bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    The S Vietnamese could not resist a fully funded and equipped communist army after the democrats in congress cut off all aid to them.

    It was the libs who snatched defeat from the jaws of a victory and condemned the south vietnamese for slavery by the north.

    As for the rest of if Eisenhower preserved South Korea and stopped the communist aggression, much to the disappointment of libs today.
     
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    so that air support could be shot down with one of Americas stinger missiles

    US-made Stinger missiles have likely fallen into ISIS hands, officials say
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-likely-fallen-into-isis-hands-officials-say/

    and you ask how did ISIS get American made stinger missiles? you need to go ask H. Clinton. if she would tell you the truth which I would be surprised she would. she would tell you that she gave terrorist those misses to use in Libya. it is the reason Stevens and the CIA was in Benghazi trying to get them back a truth that Clinton and Obama tried to hide by blaming the attack on a video
     
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    The embassy in Iraq is basically a fortress within a walled city, within another city. It is extremely well provisioned and secure. The united states also has "assets" now in the Persian Gulf that would decimate any and all open threats to this compound in short order...ISIL/ISIS would not be stupid enough to attempt an assault against it as they are aware it would result in facing the United States military machine....and we will NOT run away scared like Iraqi security forces.
     
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    I dont think obama wants to be run out of Iraq.

    His pride would suffer and it might interfere with his fundraising and tee times at the golf course.

    But these are 550 boots on the ground that der fuhrer said he would never send.
     
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    Obama would tuck his tail and run and blame the attack on a video just like he did in Benghazi
    our enemies aren't scared of us anymore and or allies don't trust us all thanks to our undeceive dithering coward of a president
     
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    How does he go from no combat troops to sending 275? Can he please make up his damn mind.
     
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    I bet the Saudi's are defecating bricks.
     
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    One would hope you eventually get over your childish (and ignorant) partisan hatred of the Muslim Kenyan Dog Eating Communist black man who kills grandmothers and Christians, in an attempt to actually engage in discussion and debate of issues.
     
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    If we have an Embassy with our flag flying on it's roof then it has to be protected by any means necessary so I see nothing wrong with 275 additional Marines sent there to see to it. I can't say anything negative about Obama sending them there. Would of been nice if he did that in 2012 in Benghazi but better late then never I suppose.
     
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    THER IT IS! Youre a racist argument. Gee it cant be that this President is a complete and utter failure can it? If you cant see it at this point its no wonder you guys are desperately throwing the race card. It has no meaning anymore like Obamas Presidency.
     
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    Don't bother. He won't learn anything from it. He has his Viet Nam redux narrative fixed in his brain. I'm sure that's what all the right wing disc jockeys are telling the angry white men these days.

    Their understanding of the outside world, history and foreign policy doesn't go much beyond that anyway.
     
  22. tecoyah

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    Interesting that the only thing your mind (such that it is) could focus on in that entire comment was the "Black Man" thingy....I wonder why that is?

    By the way, who is "You Guys"....anyone who disagrees with you?

    There must be a lot of "Us".
     
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    Out of the two of us you are the only one that brought up skin color. Why does the President have to be "black" (your words) instead of just the President. We call this a Freudian Slip. Its a mental mistake people make that give you a window into how their minds really work behind the curtains they draw. People who routinely accuse others of racism where none has been exhibited are most likely practicing racism behind their own drawn curtains. When I say you guys, I mean anyone who throws the race card where no racial comment has been made. By you guys I mean people who have chosen to lower the integrity of their own posts. Hope that clears it up.
     
  24. Defengar

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    Again, we could keep throwing money at the S Vietnamese all we wanted. All it would do was hold off the inevitable.

    As for your second statement, you obviously have no comprehension of the course of the Korean conflict and seeing such ignorance typed out before me after spending years studying it pisses me off immeasurably. If I was a less controlled person I would reply with several retorts that would earn me a ban.

    When Eisenhower was elected we had been in a stalemate with the Chinese for almost 2 years. There was almost no front movement, and SK was safe. We were making the Chinese march over mountains of their own dead, and every day their forces grew more afraid of Marines than their commanders. Thousands surrendered and chose to repatriate to Taiwan rather than the PRC after the war. The Chinese military was tired of wasting itself on American guns. Eisenhower engineered the exit strategy. SK had already been saved by Truman. Unfortunately we can't say the same about NK.

    Here is a tip. Read a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing book. And no. Not a coffee table one written by your favorite FOX news pundit. An actual one written by a credited historian that isn't one long opinion piece.
     
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    That you did not inherit the sarcasm gene is rather obvious, that you also do not understand irony is a bit concerning.
     

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