Obama's Farwell Address

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  1. Deno

    Deno Well-Known Member

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    I hate his friggin guts.............
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do.

    Mr. Wonderful until 1/20 blew off the republicans very early on.

    He kept putting down republicans and the media tried to keep it hush hush I do a lot of getting my news off CSPAN so I get to hear things as they take place.
     
  3. Draco

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    Of course politics are war, that is the whole point of our Constitution is to keep ideas "separate yet apart" as we try to find somewhere in the middle. Human civilization is literally poured daily with death and wars caused by groups of people with different ideals.

    That is why I am such a fan of states rights because with power more localized we are more able to live as we please. It is exactly why Hillary lost is because only very small and densely populated areas voted for her in mass.

    I would be interested in changing the electoral college but only back to an even more localized spot, like it was originally created to do. The Two Party System ended up changing almost all the states (is Maine the only one?) into a winner take all style of system. I would prefer if each county had an electoral vote or something like that. I think population should definitely have something to do with it but only to a point. I think the country would do far better as a whole if a lot of the urban people resettled elsewhere.

    Not that it matters one single bit, but it would be interesting with what we know now to go back and see Donald and Hillary go after The Popular Vote instead of the Electoral College. I most likely would have voted for Trump then, I think he would have gotten a lot more votes. More than her? Meh, dunno, but again.

    ...... it doesn't matter
     
  4. Thehumankind

    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure that policies are BS?,
    every move made by the government should be ratified first through the legislative body,
    we are not yet in an autocratic or despotic form of governance, we are still democratic.

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    So Obamacare is just being politicized?
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope you mean WAS!

    I hope many Democrats today realize what a mistake they made.

    When they refused to play ball with republicans, it was politicized from day one.
     
  6. Deno

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    What a joke....

    Haters "goni" Hate..

    obama wishes he could make or save jobs with a tweet.

    Look at the $hit obama has pulled.

    You said the below........

    every move made by the government should be ratified first through the legislative body,
    we are not yet in an autocratic or despotic form of governance, we are still democratic.


    Where were you at when obama was shoving his executive orders down our throat?

    I Know, you were in your hypocritical hut with your eyes shut.
     
  7. Media_Truth

    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Obama did a great job. If it weren't for the FOX LIES, you would probably think the same. George W Bush screwed up this country big-time, and Obama cleaned up all of his mess. The stock market shows just how confident Americans were, under Obama.
     
  8. Thehumankind

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    I was also there criticizing Obama's EO , But is Trump now issued EO's for it should be addressed to federal agencies not to private businessmen.
     
  9. Rexxon

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    Okay, but in a real war, people die. A LOT of people die.

    And as partisan as we are, and as things continue to get worse, it is only a matter of time before people start taking this political war literally, and people will start to die.

    Is that what you want?
     
  10. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe in common sense, statistics and historical norms.

    One is going to be more safe from potential riots and violence in a nice subdivision in Prescott, than around Indian School Road in Phoenix.
     
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    Obama’s fact-challenged farewell
    By Post Editorial Board January 11, 2017


    President Obama made his final farewell speech Tuesday back home in Chicago. Too bad his claims of historic accomplishment won’t hold up.

    He boasted of having reversed the great recession, “shut down” Iran’s nuclear-weapons program, taken out Osama bin Laden and secured “the right to health insurance for another 20 million of our fellow Americans.”

    Well, the recession did end — in one of the weakest recoveries ever. It’s only now, with a new leader coming in, that serious economic optimism has returned. Obama’s presidency will be the first to never see growth of at least 3 percent in any single year.

    Nor did his Iran deal shutter Tehran’s nuke program; it gives it a green light after 10 years or so — while sending $150 billion the regime’s way.

    Bin Laden is indeed dead. But ISIS, al Qaeda and other Islamist terror groups are alive and wreaking havoc.

    Health care? His Affordable Care Act is self-destructing — and replacing it is a top priority of the Republicans who now rule Washington in good part because ObamaCare remains so unpopular.

    Obama also repeated his mantras about “inequality,” climate change, “money in our politics” and so on, dressed up as a warning on the supposed fragility of US democracy.

    Yet the old community organizer also pointed to the vigor of that democracy, by issuing one more call for progressives to “show up, dive in, stay at it.”

    All Americans can agree with the president that the back and forth of our politics is reason to be “optimistic” about America’s future — even if many are optimistic mainly because he’s leaving.





    Obama and his out-of-touch-with-reality memories of his time in office were rejected by the American people. His clone Hillary was rejected by the American people. He can remember his time any way he wants, but history will not be so kind and neither will the American people. The "farewell" is done and so is he. All that is left is for him to LEAVE.
     
  12. Talon

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    Excellent article. Matthew Vadum wrote a scathing critique of Obama and his farewell address that highlights how appropriate his choice of venues - Chicago - was for his final exercise in self-adulation as POTUS:

    FAREWELL, RADICAL-IN-CHIEF
    Obama says goodbye to a nation he despises.
    January 11, 2017
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265429/farewell-radical-chief-matthew-vadum

    However, my favorite commentary of Obama's speech came from Larry Elder:

    Well, there's also the $9 trillion in additional debt, a resurgent Jihadist International, the prospect of a nuclear arms race in the Middle East...
     
  13. dairyair

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    I guess u think bush's bubble burst was better.
     
  14. dairyair

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    Why do rwers think positive growth is worse than a recession?
     
  15. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think Reagan's recession recovery was far far better. Obama has presided over the worst recession recovery in American history. His economic policies completely failed.
     
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    I could´nt help but wonder actually how many Chicago police officers
    were in fact there on hand while Obama gave his farewell address?
    All the while,at the same time they might have been needed,or useful
    elsewhere in the Chicago vicinity,both urban and suburban?
     
  17. dairyair

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    So you do think a long slow recovery is worse than a failed every American in their house policy that brought us down to an economic level of the great depression. You are truly unAmerican for such thinking.

    Is that what you hope Trump does also? Take us back to Bush's wars and economic depression. Truly unAmerican. Wow.

    5% UE, 75 month of job growth, a record, 15M new jobs created. And you think that's a failure. Truly unAmerican.
     
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    It was a great speech. Trump's will be; 'sorry you were too stupid to believe me. I'm really rich. Goodbye'.

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    It would be roaring success that you'd never hear the end of, if it were a Republican success story...
     
  19. dairyair

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    Not the biggest fan of obama. He turned out to be more of the same in many ways.
    But we are out of losing our 18 yr olds to oil wars.
    We are growing, IMO, a real economy, not a bubble one like bush and clinton.
    In the end of it all, we are on the upswing.
    Stock market doubled while he was in office, setting new records, ready to bust through 20,000 on the Dow.

    Such failed policies he must have had, huh?
    The RW partisan fools are party over country. Of course the left has their party over country as well.
     
  20. sawyer

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    I think Obama's anemic recovery that is the worst in history was a direct result of his failed anti America economic policies.
     
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    2000 families might not agree with him..

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    I watched the Obama farewell address, I thought it was damn good. I can't wait to hear man-child Trump's inauguration speech - if it isn't a barn burner he will be starting his term in a deeper hole than it already is. I'm not optimistic, especially if he (and Miller) is the person writing it. Trump is wise to keep it short, he is horrible at quality oration and he can't afford to descend into the wild eyed rhetoric of the campaign. He has to show he can be president for all Americans, not the minority who support him.
     
  23. dairyair

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    Ok, slow growth is failed compared to tanking like we did in 07/08. Good to know where you stand.
    Nice to know who likes and who hates American people.
     
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    Your attempt to compare apples to. Oranges is noted and it's obvious even you realize in an apple to Apple comparison Obama's recession recovery is a rotten apple.
     
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    He gets full credit for getting Trump elected but he didn't mention that. He got a lot of people 52 weeks of vacation too. It's not all bad, it's just how you look at it.
     

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