Obese? Stop preaching that it's 'okay'.

Wow - Are there really?

Most of them lie to themselves anyway. And to everyone else, as it goes. They make out that they love how they are, but the first chance they get to bang in a gastric band .. they take it.

Not that doing this is the way to go either. Read some horror stories with them, besides which, if you don't alter your habits you can return to being how you were.

 

My friend is about 300 pounds, been that way for awhile. He gets more women then the rest of this board combined. He can kick most asses too. He likes being his weight, he likes cigs and a drink at times. Realize he may die at 60, but then says "who wants to be 70?"

What is wrong with that?

There are things that suck about all of you. I know, because I am also human. Heal yourself first then when you are perfect you can hurl stones at people because you don't like their weight. You don't think they know they are fat?

 

I love the women that use the fact they were preggo as why they are fat. Really, your kid is 5... Even when you were preggo, you gained 75#. The baby only weighed 6#.....

 

I see.

So all doctors are simply wrong are they?

Based on your 'friend'.

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Yeah. I said he would live forever. You got me. Don't you have Jews to hate on later today?

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Do you really smoke though? And you are picking on others people's health choices? You know you dot have to. Just put less cigarettes in your mouth.

 

This friend.

Is it one of 'those' types of friends?

You know.

 

Is there anything the left would try to do by persuasion? Or is it always force with you people?

 

You mean anti Nazi? I think so. He knocked out a neo-nazi running his mouth at that bar I was telling you about. That guy lost a few teeth, my friend say "next time you run your mouth I am getting the rest of those teeth". Baller. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing awesome really. Fun was had by all, and I scored a few free drinks that night too. All in all, a great day.

 

So he is violent and fat?

Did the 'Nazi' steal his burgers.

 

Yeah, like I said he doesn't plan to live forever.

No, the guy walked away with half a mouth, he didn't die.

 

I also hate to agree with JN, but on this issue I absolutely concur. Take my own example; three years ago, after a period of several years when I was seriously unwell and virtually housebound, I recovered having gained around 30lbs. Now, after three years of hard, physical work, a lot of walking (I don't drive), I lost it all and feel fit, strong and healthy again.
Dealing with obesity isn't really that difficult. One only needs to combat complacency and address the problem. Obesity, and obesity-related disease costs the NHS billions which could be spent on those with health problems which are not self-inflicted. In 2007 alone obesity-related disease cost the NHS over £4 billion.

 

This is the problem with socialized healthcare. All of a sudden your neighbors business is the nations.

The NHS kills plenty of people as it is. Try improving your atrocious recovery rates before worrying about how deadly obesity is.

 

The NHS 'kills' nobody. See, to kill someone you have to have something called 'intent'. That's murder. Please provide data to prove the NHS murdered anyone. Thanks.
And as for "atrocious" rates of recovery, which illnesses are you referring to, and in comparison to where?

If you're obese it's your problem; you inflicted it on yourself. Deal with it. In a country where every restaurant serves vast portions of fat-laden crap, and provides 'doggie bags' so the gluttony can continue at home, it is a serious problem.
Do I sense some defensiveness here, John?

 

They are the worst in the OECd and par with Eastern Europe. That is atrocious.

I am a fisherman who free dives for a living. You sense defense of those people who want to live their lives without you people forcing them to do this or that, or forcing the worker to work to pay for some new public education campaign.

wht if you are ok with yourself?

Why do you care what other people do? Because of socialized medical cost you have to bear or because the leftist in you wants to control everyone?

 

Obesity is the condition that all the market incentives are designed to promote.
Getting people fat is very profitable, that's why it happens.
If you want less obesity, it requires government intervention in the market.

Maybe even government run health care.

Take the additives out of food that make it addictive.
Require food to be healthy, ban unhealthy foods.

Try to find a loaf of bread at the supermarket that doesn't have HFCS added.
Oh, you can, but it takes a while, and it's going to be in the more expensive artisan bread area.

Food should be more expensive and it should be food.

 

That's not the government's responsibility. It's up to individuals to clean up their dietary habits.

 

I care because I'm a human being. I don't bow to the conservative mantra of "personal responsibility" as absolution from any sense of responsibility to my fellow man, which is about as dumb a concept as 'god did it' to explain everything.
If someone is 'ok' with their potential for developing life-threatening disease and the very real risk of premature death because they can't control their eating habits, and don't exercise, you believe it's 'ok' to just allow them to go ahead and kill themselves? What if it were a family member-wouldn't you want to do something to help? Have you any idea how dramatically your healthcare costs would drop if obesity was addressed? Obesity impacts on everyone-including you.

 

So, forcing other people to live the way you want them to is compassion? Why don't you do it through charity then, why does the left always want laws and control? Because it takes up less of your time personally, or because you care so much you can't leave living up to the people it has to come from the ruling class?

 

How low are his standards or how much money is he spending on them=) C'mon, get real.

Back OT...as long as we're all paying through insurance for the overweight and unhealthy, it is ALL our problem. Our healthcare costs aren't going up just because CEO's are greedy. We're a whole lot fatter than we were a few decades ago and that costs money. Well, YOU people are fat. I'm not=)

 

No way dude. Most are hot and spend money on him if anything. Some are kind of goth/emo looking if i am bring honest though. Chicks with tatoos and the like, nose rings and that. He is tough, has confidence and game and women go for that. Cars, good looks, help - but have nothing on confidence when it comes to talking to women. Women hate indecisive nancy boys. He also has a boat though. Boats go a long way, sand bars are the best bars to meet women.

 

Yep. and it appears from Mr. Mayo that $450 billion a year is a small price to pay for "being ok with yourself".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bethhoffman/2012/08/16/what-the-obesity-epidemic-costs-us-infographic/

 

Okay, do you mind if we speak about the broader issue now, rather than speak about your fat violent 'friend'?

 

Because that works sooooo well.

It is the government's responsibility under the constitution to regulate interstate commerce, and that includes 99% of the food supply.

It's not a case where some individuals are choosing to become obese.
We have an epidemic of obesity in six month olds, are these six month olds choosing to become obese?
We have an epidemic of childhood obesity, are these children making informed decisions and choosing to become obese?
This is a public health issue, it's one of the things that the government can do, and can do it well, if we choose to do it with government intervention.

The problem is that sugar is toxic, and we allow huge quantities of sugar to be added to the food supply, because it's cheap and addictive.
We allow thousands of things in our food that are banned in Europe, but they make the food taste better and they make it cheaper.

 

You are the one who harped on the guy and tried to make a gay insinuation or a black one, not sure.

I only mentioned his story because he doesn't care if he is fat. Other people don't care, and others that do are trying and do not need your disdain. Why do you have to force people to live the lives you want? Because under socialized medicine you will have to pay for them? That is the fault of socialists not fat people.

 

Regulating interstate commerce was supposed to mean the free flow of goods between the states. Now it means let the ruling class tell everyone how to live and what to eat and how much huh? Is there anything your neighbor can do that you do not want to control? That your leftist allies don't want to control?