Oh... how Republican candidates looove Obamacare!

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    If we had National Healthcare then everyone can pay a portion and business would be on a equal footing with the rest of the world.

    Taking that burden off business makes sense every way you look at it. Better than Wealth Shift Legislation for the Rich.!
     
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    Dear, having city snow plows does not make us socialist or mean we should have a national socialist car company! Does this really confuse you?
     
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    why not have national cars planes trains and computers etc if you think a govt monopoly delivers goods and services efficiently? See why we say liberalism is based in ignorance?
     
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    You miss the point completely. We want to establish the free market price for people with pre existing conditions and others so we know it is the lowest possible price. Do you understand?
     
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    Imagine, socialism just killed 120 million and liberals call it progress???
    Does the silly liberal want to see such progress in car, planes, and computers??
     
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    actually without profit there is little reason to delivery a superior product or a product at all. This is why 120 million slowly starved to death in USSR an Red China before they switched to capitalism. Do you understand?
     
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    Not really. It's like saying it makes sense that car companies avoid people who want really expensive cars.
     
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    Actually, I didn't miss anything. If you are happy to have the free market (which is just a conglomerate of insurance carriers) decide the price for pre ex Americans, then good for you. But not good for them.
     
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    do you want govt or free market to determine our prices?
     
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    As a person who understands the importance of regulation in certain areas, I welcome govt intervention and regulation with respect to healthcare costs.
     
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    Well then, you might want to look into WHY it costs 4 times more. Regulation is designed to protect the citizens, but it appears that it is protecting the big companies...
     
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    yes this is why 120 million died in USSR and Red China thanks to regulation. Socialism or Obamacare crony capitalism never works, only capitalism works. Do you understand?
     
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    Has anyone ever told you how cute you are when you're patronizing?
     
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    Ha ha..that’s dillusional thinking.
    The Soviet Union is a free capitalistic society ? You need to go back to school and study geography. It’s a dictatorial federation. There is nothing free about it and capitalism only exists within Putin’s non constitutional governance. It’s not capitalism when Putin nationalized and controls all the major industries that made him the richest man in the world. Capitalism ? Ya ha.
    China ? China is not a capitalist country. State owned enterprises dominate the "commanding heights" of the economy such as banking, energy, aerospace, car manufacturing, health care, construction, etc.

    The United States for profit healthcare system among the democratic run nations of the world ranks “last or close to last in access, administrative efficiency, equity and health care outcomes, yet the U.S. was found to spend the most money on health care.”

    According to the world health organization.
     
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    Free capitalism without govt. control doesn’t work in the United States for national and local defense , fire departments , post office and plow trucks on public highways. The healthcare system in all the countries ranked above us PROVE IT.
     
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    “Dear”
    No country is strick capitalism. Every free democracy practices socialism and govt. controlled capitalism.,they are called mixed economies. The United States has a mixed economy. It works according to an economic system that features characteristics of both capitalism and socialism.

    Walmart, the biggest private employer employs 2.2 million. That’s govt, controlled capitalism. Guess how many the US govt. . Employs ? 5 million. That’s called..socialism.
     
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    Spoken by the poster who said...”USSR an Red China before they switched to capitalism.” Or, did you change that in the dead of night.
     
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    total misunderstanding. They have no health care except what we invented for them. We do all the research and hold all the patents. They are poor countries that simply administer our health care. If we were as poor as Europe our health care would be as cheap as theirs. Cuba has great care too, 95% from USA. The only way to deliver low cost & quality is with Republican capitalist competition. Do you grasp it now.
     
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    60 million slowly starved to death under socialism, now nobody does. What is the lesson. Same in China . What is lesson?? Ever heard of East/West Germany. what is lesson. Ever heard of Cuba/Florida? what is lesson
     
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    They have no health care except what we invented for them
    Oh, we invented Canada’s and the UKs and the Scandinavian healthcare systems ? Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    Don’t claim that capitalism saved them.
     
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    so socialism is when govt owns major industries. The Air Force is not considered a major industry. Do you understand?
     
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    exactly we hold 70% of all recent patents. Do you grasp this??
     
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    Patents in what ? BS.
     
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    China just switched to Republican capitalism and instantly eliminated 40% of all the planets poverty. Did you think it was just coincidence??
     
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