Ohio Becomes 23rd Constitutional Carry State

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  1. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/14/ohio-becomes-23rd-constitutional-carry-state/

    Gov. Mike DeWine (R) signed legislation Monday making Ohio the 23rd constitutional carry state in the Union.

    The other 22 are: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming.


    More and more people are deciding to protect themselves and their families against criminals with something more effective than a rape whistle. In my State the libs predicted a Wild West bloodbath when Constitutional Carry passed. But somehow this did not occur.
     
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    Hooray us!
    I'll still renew my permit - it allows me to carry in all the states I go to.
     
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    Maybe it would occur in the places where they are congregated together and most concentrated in. I don't know, just something to think about.
     
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    I think theres something to this. In my discussions with people I know personally who oppose the right to bear arms, prolongued debate more often than not leads to them reasoning that they fear if they carried a gun, they would eventually use it out of anger and hurt someone unjustly. Basically they think they're not in enough control of themselves to trust themselves with a firearm. And it is respectable to understand ones owns weaknesses like that and live accordingly.

    ...the problem is they believe its normal to lose control to that extent and everyone else is similarly out of control, which is why they dont want others to have guns either.
     
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    This is quickly getting off topic, but there are definitely some people who have extreme emotional volatility, and they know it. This is one of the supposed justifications for waiting period laws.
    (and by this statement I definitely do not mean to imply that it should be the role of the rest of society to decide who these specific people are)

    But this has nothing to do with the topic in the opening post.
     
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    CIVIL RIGHTS UPDATE: Georgia Senate Passes Constitutional Carry Bill, Governor Kemp Promises to Sign It.

    The Center Square . . .

    “I look forward to signing the Georgia Constitutional Carry Act of 2021 into law soon and fulfilling another promise I made to the voters of this state,” Kemp said. “… Law-abiding Georgians deserve to ensure they can protect themselves and their families, and this legislation strengthens that God-given right.

    Amen!

    Also known as Vermont Carry.

    The 2nd and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution are: "fully incorporated" and thus the right to "...keep and bear arms applies to the states and not 'in a watered-down version' but 'fully applicable'...," and limits state and local governments in enacting laws that restrict this individual and fundamental right to "...keep and bear arms," for self-defense."

    1U.S. jurisdictions that have constitutional carry
    GA makes 25.
     
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    Agreed hooray for Ohio and the US as a whole.

    With more examples of this freedom being recognized and all hell not breaking loose it may motivate more States to at least consider it.
     
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    I have run into this too but I don't think that it's a genuine fear of what they might do because ultimately they are in control of their own actions.

    I think it's a virtue signal. You basically projected this concept of putting themselves aside for the sake of other people. Almost like a self-sacrifice. It's not really it's to try and appear more civilized.

    As though I'm staining is them giving up themselves and it's really not. This type of people don't participate in shooting sports they don't have any interest in it they don't have any interest in concealed carry or self-defense or any of that so they're not giving anything they're just virtue signaling.

    And this contributes to that idea that these type of people jerk themselves off to. They are a superior more involved human being. You're a Neanderthal that needs to carry your club around to feel safe.
     
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    I know for a fact some people lose control of their emotions to an extent that they lose control of their actions. This is why the 'temporary insanity' defense exists, and why jurys sometimes rule that a crime was justified when the perpetrator was under such stress that a 'reasonable' person would have reacted similarly.

    The difference between 'reasonable' reactions and 'mental dissorder' is often quite subjective, but there is a difference nonetheless. Some people lose control of themselves in situations that society as a whole does not find acceptable.

    This isn't an argument for gun control of course- restricting everyone to address the minority who have a dissorder is not the answer. But it is still a relavent consideration on the subject of violence as a whole.
     
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    ditto this and if you ever have to shoot an attacker, this will help your position
     
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    I can’t prove it, but this seems to make repealing the 2A even harder. Getting further away from 2/3rds seemingly every year.

    Edit: I’m very happy about that.
     
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    The US will collapse before the 2nd Amendment is repealed.
     
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    3/4ths of the states.
     
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    Even better.
     

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