Ok... Let's get one obvious fact straight: The Republican Party controls everything

What nonsense! You think Moon would want to risk one of Trump's temper tantrums when he learned he was a null value in the equation?

Moon is the only one responsible for all the progress between N and S Korea. He had made great progress before Trump's so-called "summit" and debacle with KJU Trump has only been an obstacle in their path. He was just the useful fool N. Korea needed to give them legitimacy as a Nuclear Power.

In any case, completely off topic. Why do Republicans insist on changing the subject when they run out of arguments.

 

More that you do not understand yet persist in such arguments. I had the feeling it would turn out this way.

 

For Trump's constant attempts at undermining the peace, raging economy and happy populace that he inherited.

BTW, I'll buy raging economy (with many caveats). As for the other two.... I must remind you we're still at war (and Democrats are partially to blame for that). Even though Trump is completely oblivious (which is probably a good thing) And I'm pretty sure we were happier when we didn't have to deal with things like the White Supremacists that Trump has empowered, or children being separated from their family, or sexual predators being allowed to seek positions of power, or the President of the United States abusing power almost on a daily basis... and so on.... All of which, BTW, are blamed on Democrats by Trump loyalists.

 

You gotta love how the Trump cult believes that projection gets them off the hook.

 

I understand your feelings about Perot. Him withdrawing was a huge disappointment. With me, it isn't the party, I don't support any party. Both major parties leave a foul taste in my mouth. Now depending on the issue or legislation I will at times support the Democrats and other times the Republicans. Or at times be against both as I was with the ACA and then the AHCA.

A good idea or proposal doesn't have to come from just one party, both can suggest things that are good for the country. Yes, in a way independents are all over the place. It's true they will vote for candidates of one party one election, then vote for candidates of the other party the next. For a lot of independents they vote for the candidate they deem the best regardless of political party or put another way, in some election they vote for the candidate whom they think is the least worst. Prime example of this is 2016.

Myself, in 2016 I voted third party for president, republican for senator and democratic for congressman. All based on whom I thought was the best candidate, again regardless of party. Here's how independents voted from 2006 thru 2016

2006 independents voted Democratic by a margin of 57-39 over Republicans. Democrats received 52% total congressional vote vs. 44% for the Republicans.


2008 independents voted for Obama by a 52-46 margin over McCain. Obama won 53-46. Independents voted 51-47 for Democratic congressional candidates. Total congressional vote was 53-43 Democratic.


2010 independents voted 57-41 Republican over Democrat and the total congressional vote was Republican 52% Democratic 45%


2012 independents voted for Romney by a 51-48 margin, close to a wash. Obama won the election 51-47. Independents voted 50-49 for Republican congressional candidates. Total congressional vote was 49-48 Democratic.


2014 independents voted 54-44 for Republican congressional candidates and the total vote was 51-46 Republican.


2016 Independents voted for Trump 46-42 with 12% voting third party. In congressional election independents voted Republican 51-47. Total congressional vote was 49-48 Republican.

 

Trump hasn't given NK anything. Stop making crap up!

Why do you think they are called the rust belt states? Because they have been slowing deteriorating since the 70's. Trump is bringing them back to life. Manufacturing has increased in those states since Trump become President.

He has not! What stupid comment.

No more than Obama empowered the new black panther party, BLM, and criminal thugs.

No he hasn't. Stop making crap up.

More rubbish. Stop making crap up.

Obama was the most polarizing president...
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203006/obama-job-approval-ratings-politically-polarized-far.aspx

 

The U.S. political division hasn't been Republicans v Democrats for at least 2-3 decades, but it's understandable that a non U.S. citizen such as O.P. would make that naïve error.

The accurate division in U.S. politics is a) the non-government dependent private sector and its employed taxpayers who pay ~30%+ of their livelihoods, their -lives- versus b) the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex (who also pay taxes, but illicit gain outweighs what they pay and they know it), its many tributaries foreign and domestic (whoever signs OP's and a few other usual suspect lockstep union-label posters' paychecks for example), and its permanently dependent underclass Idiocracy plantation. This Complex is often abbreviated as the "deep state" and it is neither hidden nor anywhere near as subtle as it was in the past. Denying its existence is nearly as boneheaded as denying the existence of Nazi death camps.

The Framers warned of this, warned of the dangers of a permanently entrenched bureau-government class, and due to illicit growth of the federal government by BOTH parties in the 20th century, but far more by Democrats, we are reaping the whirlwind today. Trump is like sunlight on this rotten vampire, and that is why the Complex is so desperately and self-destructively allied against the Trump movement. "Trumpism" threatens to expose and shut down many graft troughs, that they can't have, so they are fighting tooth and nail.

 

My best friend who is a card carrying Progressive said he is embarrassed for the Kavanaugh thing going on ....

My gf who is a UCLA grad and a pretty staunch Leftist in most ways, said in the year and a half she has dated me she cant believe how much either a) the Democrats have changed, or b) she is now seeing the other side of the story.

I am curious if Democrats think they can get the nation to hate a Justice for no good reason and that it won't have some blowback in votes. At the same time they are trying to ignore the videos coming out about the Deep State, that does A LOT to prove what a lot of Republicans have been saying.

Top that off with the censorship from Facebook, Youtube and the rest of em?

You guys better have one INCREDIBLY turnout .... because I don't know of a single Independent, Moderate Liberal or Libertarian who can stomach the stuff going on.

 

They can block virtually anything and everything in the senate because 60 votes are required to pass laws and the republicans don't have 60 votes. That is good. Partisan bills should not become law.

 

I agree. It is frustrating to see one side rig the system in their favor, and then use that rigged system to consolidate power and denying over 50% of America their democratic wishes. I agree. It is frustrating.

 

The GOP has been impeded time and again by Obama appointed
Rogue Radical judges and certain radical circuit courts.
As far as Immigration policy.Presidient Trump has managed to get Tax
cuts where the Democrats Voted Nay as usual.President Trump did not
need any Advise and Consent { like in a Supreme Court Noiminee }
in order to oust Obama record level of Rules & Regulations.
Which cost americans jobs in the small business community.Also
cost every American more in high bills { like their electricity bill }.
President Trump on account of true In Yer Face Obstructionism by these
Pig Scum Democrats had The slowest rate of cabinet appointment and
especially in naming Ambassadors in American History.
DUE ENTIRELY TO OBAMA-STYLE DEMOCRATS.

 

This whole post of yours is just a compilation of misinformation picked up from wingnut media. I already explained what N Korea got. Your post contains no arguments. But the whole thing is off-topic. So I guess it doesn't matter.

 

Ridiculous. The Filibuster rule can be overturned by simple majority if any Senator raises a point of order claiming that it's unconstitutional. For example, even though Obamacare was barely saved by McCain's vote, it would have been overturned by a simple majority.

And that's not even mentioning the Neil Gorsich confirmation.

Very poor excuse.

 

Your post is ridiculous. Republicans have all the votes they need to appoint whomever they want. Ask Gorsich!

Obama met the largest number of filibusters in our history. And they were for purely partisan reasons. Legitimate questioning were not even raised in most cases. Trump doesn't even have to deal with the filibuster rule. And yet, Obama never evaded his responsibility to govern, as Trump has.

This Conspiracy Theory to avoid responsibility for governing pushed by the Trump administration is simple incompetence. He ran on the premise that he was this great "negotiator", and yet he can't even negotiate with his own party. He lacks the leadership, brains and sense of responsibility to get anything accomplished.

 

It wasn't an excuse. It was an explanation. But I'm willing to call it the swamp acting like a swamp.

 

Bull. That's a flat out lie.

You dont like the format that he achieves those things... so you criticize his intentions and his success. There is not rationalizing with irrational people. To claim he desires to undermine those principles is nothing more than hyper partisanship.

[QUOTE="Golem, post: 1069641215, member: 70622"
BTW, I'll buy raging economy (with many caveats). As for the other two.... I must remind you we're still at war (and Democrats are partially to blame for that).[/quote]

Not per the definition. No war was ever declared.

[QUOTE="Golem, post: 1069641215, member: 70622"
Even though Trump is completely oblivious (which is probably a good thing) And I'm pretty sure we were happier when we didn't have to deal with things like the White Supremacists that Trump has empowered, or children being separated from their family, or sexual predators being allowed to seek positions of power, or the President of the United States abusing power almost on a daily basis... and so on.... All of which, BTW, are blamed on Democrats by Trump loyalists.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, let's keep up the hyper partisanship and left wing unsubstantiated talking points, because clearly that will lead to honest discussion and debate.

The left is unhinged, as demonstrated in your post. Completely unable to look at reality in a practical sense.

Things are good. Sorry that isnt convenient for your agenda.

 

Not according to financial records.

Them pesky numbers!

Hilarious!

For a minute there, I almost took you seriously.

 

And i see we have digressed into juvenile behavior.

Dont worry, this is typical of people whose arguments suck and they can no longer defend them.

 

I have to agree with you on this last part. I can't think of a worse, more juvenile and less defensible "argument" than yours claiming that the War in Afghanistan doesn't exist.

It's unanswerable.... shuts down any expectation or possibility of a serious grown-up debate.. So, why bother trying?