Once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the Left does produce conspiracy theorists at rate that Flat Earthers, 9/11 Troofers, Holocaust Deniers and the rest of the inhabitants of the Pantheon of Tinfoil can only admire, but no one considers 2016 ancient. Look at how TDS Sufferers still can't over the outcome of the 2016 presidential election - every day is freakin' election night at the Javits Center

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    Obviously, one would have to have an agenda to claim 2016 is "ancient" in any sense of the word...
     
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  2. Margot2

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    Yeah.. Rumsfeld knows nothing about nuclear power and Cheney knows nothing about oil services.
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And they did not earn anywhere near $50/k mo. Check it out. I have.
     
  4. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and Lefties told us Cheney was as corrupt as Satan's black heart - shall we judge the Bidens in a similar fashion?

    I don't have a problem with people making as much money as they can or cashing-in on their connections, but that's not what stinks to high heaven in this case - it's the stench of corruption, obstruction of justice and rank hypocrisy.
     
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  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean asking the President of Ukraine to look into what was already reported in the media and what Biden bragged about?
     
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  6. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Mueller investigation was ordered by Trump’s own DOJ appointment. If you read it you would see that it is anything but a hoax. It clearly states that there was a concerted effort by Russian Military intel to interfere with our election in 2016. The only credibility that was destroyed is that of the imbeciles who continue to call it a hoax, a witch hunt or a soft coup.

    Now if that same Trump DOJ wishes to launch an investigation into Biden’s conduct when he was VP, they are certainly entitled to by going through proper channels. However sending Rudy “Daffy Duck” Guiliani over there on a fishing expedition while Trump is using US military aid to coerce a foreign leader into digging up dirt on Biden is ‘dithpicable’ in my opinion.
     
  7. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The AG Trump appointed ordered the investigation?

    No, he didn't.

    It was ordered by Rod "The Wire" Rosenstein under the pressure of Democrats who falsely accused Trump of firing Comey to obstruct a political hit job - I mean *cough* "investigation *cough* - that was orchestrated by the scofflaws in the Obama-Clinton crime family who are currently being investigated for FISA abuse in order to illegally spy on an opposition political campaign. Not surprisingly, and as predicted by myself and probably millions of other Americans, this political hit job - I mean *cough* "investigation" *cough* - proved to be launched without predicate, and was swiftly wrapped up after Trump did appoint an Attorney General who could conduct oversight into the political hit job - I mean *cough* "investigation" *cough* - which just so happened to include anti-Trump and Leftist scumbags like Peter Strzok and Andrew Weisserman.

    Details, details, details disingenuously omitted, as if everyone has forgotten what happened...:roll:

    It was a TOTAL hoax predicated on the bogus assertion that Trump had colluded with the Russians. In the end, the entire "investigation" was proven to have been conducted without predicate, like the "investigations" conducted by Lavrentiy Beria when Joseph Stalin was wiping out his political opposition in the USSR during the Great Purge. Even Democratic loyalists such as Alan Dershowitz pointed out the similarities between the Mueller and Beria "investigations":

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    Which the political hit job - I mean *cough* "investigation" *cough* - conducted by Mueller and the "insurance" agents working on his team, predictably failed to prove was conducted in concert with Trump, hence establishing the fact that the "investigation" into Trump's collusion with the Russians was conducted without predicate - a hoax, a witch hunt and what might be called an administrative coup conducted on behalf of Democrats.

    The only imbeciles here are the ones who contend otherwise. Democrats and their errand boys in the federal bureaucracy and media have been completely destroyed their own credibility.

    You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. The very foreign leader that you and your discredited comrades claim was "coerced" has already disproved your bogus claim.

    As for digging up dirt and conducting investigations, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and if Giuliani is playing by the Left's rules so much the better.
     
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    The investigation into Trump was a hoax born out by the Mueller report. You know, the same conspiracy that Schiff for brains lied about having concrete proof that Trump conspired with Russia.
     
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    Trump appointed Rosenstein as his assistant AG. The rest of what you wrote, posted and whined about is a steaming heap of rehashed and debiunked crap.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only Hannitized Ditto Heads who don’t read much believe that garbage Hoosier. The only hoax is the pathetic defense you guys contunually advance here. Your boy is a crooked little con man. Fortunately it appears that the Democrats have finally grown a set and are ready to impeach his fat ass.
     
  12. Professor Peabody

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    I don't believe he did. The news is calling the prosecutor a Russian Asset. If that's true why didn't Trump just ask Putin to make something up and feed it to the Ukrainian Prosecutor Russian asset?
     
  13. Arkanis

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    Because contacting a foreign government for help against a political opponent is considered an abuse of power by the Constitution.

    That's why Trump wanted his actions against Biden to remain secret.

    Didn't you know that?
     
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    huh? He's the head of the executive....it very much is his job
     
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    Your lack of knowledge of the President's powers is staggering.
     
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    The power is pretty straight forward....the power of the executive vest in A President.


    What do you think the executive branch does?
     
  17. Arkanis

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    Something other than investigating the President's political opponents.
     
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    Really? you had a issue with the Obama admin investigating Trump? The Executive branch enforces laws....it does so equally, with no regard to who is being investigated.
     
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    Yea and let's see where trump asked anyone to "investigate" you won't find it in the transcript. It's an absurd leap the left and media have been pushing.
     
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    The desperate attempts to contrive evidence to discredit Biden and/or his son failed, but it would be irrelevant to the questions the inquiry hopes to clarify anyway.

    Neither the Trump regime, not Ukraine, targeted by Trump's personal attorney, has produced the dirt on either Biden, but if it actually existed, it would not impact the impropriety of Trump attempting to extort a "favor" from a foreign source to use against a political rival.

    The fact that Trump withheld allocated funds from that foreign nation shortly before seeking his "favor" and that his regime attempted a cover-up by trying to hide the transcript of the telephone call in a highly-restricted file do not help Trump's case. Nor does Fake Don's hysterically raving about "spies!" and "treason!"

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    No one should be afraid of you, @realDonaldTrump, because beneath all your bluster, you're lame and dumb.
    You've already done yourself in. All you're doing now is expediting the process. And you're too sociopathic and
    stupid to understand how and why. https://t.co/wK0h7zoBOI

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    Good god talk about spin yeap Trump ordered an investigation on himself knowing of course that he did nothing wrong. It was all absurd dirty politics just like this deal is.
     
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    Just like Nixon and Clinton, Trump has caused all of his own problems. He is however a whiney little beotch.
     
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    We don need no stinkin evidence. The left wing mantra.
     
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    Again, I've seen nothing, heard nothing from anyone trying to block any investigation into the Bidens. Whinging about it or saying "they've already been investigated" is not blocking.

    Show me that our FBI has launched an investigation, and how Democrats have blocked them. Until then, it's all noise.

    And consider this: in more than 2 1/2 years this administration and it's Justice department have not investigated the Bidens, so why is Trump harping on it now? Why is he sending Rudy to Ukraine? Why did he mention having Barr contact Zelenskiy to coordinate an investigation over there? The only plausible answer is that, until recently, Biden was not a political opponent. Timing is key.
     

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