One Legacy of Merkel? Angry East German Men Fueling the Far Right

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    Alternative for Germany party.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/world/europe/germany-election-afd.html?module=inline

    Its origins
    Alternative for Germany — widely known by its German initials AfD — was founded in the spring of 2013 by a group of elite conservatives, many of whom had been raised in the Christian Democratic Union, the center-right party that Ms. Merkel leads. They were frustrated with what they saw as a shift to the center on a range of policies, but especially with Ms. Merkel’s decision to commit German taxpayer money to a bailout of Greece.
     
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    I´m a party member of the Junge Alternative, the youth organisation of the AfD. In Eastern Germany AfD is the leading party and breaks up the old system parties but in the west the AfD also has much sucess.
     
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    Very sad. These people think and behave like Nazis.
     
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    I was hoping you'd reply Sobo. I would like to better understand your situation. From what I've read if I were in your shoes I'd be involved with the Junge Alternative as well. East Germans were abandoned by one of their own. An East German, Merkel. I wish you luck in your struggles to become recognized citizens in your own country.
     
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    They behave like a democracy should. They protest and seek offices in the German government. If that is considered Nazism then I guess the US political parties are also Nazis.
     
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    Those guys marching and chanting in the street? The guys attacking businesses a la Kristallnacht? Nazis.
     
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    Like that doesn't happen here in the US? And Kristallnacht was more than just attacking businesses in the night.
     
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    The article pretty much is leftist bullshit.

    I´m a police apprentice and all my comrades vote AfD. Our teachers vote AfD. Reserch showed that AfD is the party elected mostly from educated and high income people.

    Germany is totally encrusted in a rotten system since decades. Always the same empty phrases. The same bullshit in nice word. You hear them speak and you could vomit.

    The AfD started to break that rotten system up. They say what people really think. Speak openly what people care about without any taboo.

    Best example was Dresden in 2016. The reunion day,. The politics elite arrived to celebrate themself like usual with their pathetic speeches and silly "cultural events". They were greeted by tenthousands who shouted insults against them.

    And the police there to guard them...joined the demonstrators and shouted insults against Merkel and the rest standing above.

    The liberal left labels evryone a Nazi. And you know what? That makes me a proud Nazi. The title was used so often, it has becoem a title of honor.

    Btw thats the ID, basicly our youth organisation.

    Does this look like the bullshit your article said?

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    Germany is for Germans only.

    Next year is state election in my state Thüringen. Polls say AfD will become strongest party. :)
     
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    German business is not attacked in German cities. The only one attacking business is ANTIFA.
     
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    What part of the article I posted is wrong regarding the AfD? Your last statement, "Germany is for Germans only" does not sit well with me. Understand East German's anger but is that how you want the world to see you?
     
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    Are they wishing they had left the wall up?
     
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    Does "Mecca is for Muslims only" bother you?

    Does it bother you that Pakistan wants to execute a Christian for drinking out of a "muslim only" cup?
     
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    Any non-inclusion bothers me.
     
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    Does non-inclusion of those that want to kill you for drinking from their cup bother you?

    It shouldn't.

    It's called self-preservation.
     
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    They used many tactics to talk teh AfD down.

    1. tehy tried to ignore the AfD.

    2. then said all AfD is frustrated losers.

    3. was that AfD are all Nazis.

    Until now those efforts were pretty useless and the AfD did rise higher and higher. And in west german Baden-Württemberg had almost 20%

    And of course Germany is for Germans. Its the only naton our ethnicity can call its home. We have no 2nd homeland. And we will defend it with evrything we have.

    Thats another thing i find so amusing. One leftist politician said in 2015 migrants would change Germany forever and she is so happy about it.

    Turned out Germany did change indeed.It shifts to the far right. People wake up and laugh about thise clowns that call themself "government".

    Our justice minister had to run away from Zwickau with screeching wheels



    Another fun fact. The government silently wanted sign the "global pact for migration". It was AfD that pulled this on the light and people now are outragous about this.

    The sucess of the AfD brought Merkel to fall. I feel great pride for that
     
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    You seem not to understand the anger of East Germans due to Merkel's policies that ignored men of East Germany. Merkel, who is from East Germany, created the problems we see arising in Germany. Germany is still a country divided by politics and not a wall.

    "The emergence of Eastern Man as a disruptive political force stands as a prime legacy of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s 13 years in power. As she prepared Germans last week for her eventual political exit, some noted that, politically at least, her Germany was more divided between East and West than at any point since reunification."
     
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    much the same happening in the usa and i'd suspect elsewhere... something larger is at play here...
     
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    Yeah.

    It's the realization that bringing in murderous people into your home isn't a good idea.
     

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